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09-20-2009 07:27 AM  11 years ago
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shizack

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Did you crash today?
Yes I did. My first dumb-thumb crash in a VERY long time (except for the Throttle Hold Incident a month ago).

I was getting cocky, feeling pretty confident about flips and inverted hovering.

Poor collective management did me in. I was starting to get a brain fade while hovering inverted, and tried to flip out of it. I didn't apply enough positive collective to pull out and crash-landed HARD.

Just starting the tear-down now and I can already see a split canopy, stripped elevator servo, bent spindle, stripped main gear, and knocked-to-the-side lower frame. I'm betting the main shaft is bent too.

I hope the head survived. It looks OK, but we'll see later.

Watch at YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV_WYeHlHYg

Some of you may think I overdo the videos a bit, but in this case it allowed me to analyze what happened.

Whether you post them or not (please do!) they can be a very valuable tool for analyzing problems and crash causes.

<EDIT> Wow - YouTube sure picked a nice thumbnail for a video for a change. Pretty. </EDIT>
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09-20-2009 07:41 AM  11 years ago
Gregor99

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Thanks for sharing! I never tire of your vids. Inverted is looking quite good. At least until the end Revolectrix Beta Team
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09-20-2009 07:46 AM  11 years ago
shizack

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I used to fear crashes like the end of the world. I didn't get that "punch in the gut" feeling this time. I was kind of expecting a crash here soon since I'm pushing my envelope quite a bit.

On a good note - the SuperSkids are still perfectly intact, albeit with a few more scuffs. Any other skids I've used before would have been splinters.
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09-20-2009 12:23 PM  11 years ago
DougsRC

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Your video's are GREAT shizack !!! Inverted coming along nicely, the best part was when you said ---- Sweeeeet------
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09-20-2009 09:32 PM  11 years ago
Gyronut

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Crashed about 67 times on the Sim today..Rick
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09-20-2009 10:42 PM  11 years ago
Melnic

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What was the crash cost?

Reminds me of one of my last crashes where I both brain faded and also over thought it. I was thinking about flipping back over from inverted and punching alot of positive at the end of the flip and then just threw positive and whent straight down w/o giving some negative first.

You got the right attitude though
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09-20-2009 11:12 PM  11 years ago
shizack

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What was the crash cost?
Had enough spares on hand. I'd estimate:

FS: $3
Tail boom: $4
Main gear: $5
Servo: $4 (HXT)
Canopy: $10
Blades: $13 (I'm hooked on Align woodies)

Maybe $40 if I went with all-new Align stuff, including the extras that come in the packs. Probably $20 or so for clone parts.

I need some more sim time. I just about have the stick movements for inverted hovering ingrained, but I need to figure out which parameters in the sim will cause the motor to bog a little more.
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09-22-2009 02:16 AM  11 years ago
zaw

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I told my self yesterday not to fly the last battery.ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425
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09-27-2009 01:55 PM  11 years ago
shizack

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Did you crash today?

Yes I did. Video and details will be posted in a new thread for help solving the mystery.
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09-30-2009 11:32 AM  11 years ago
briangp

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I crashed today, really hard nose into the concrete.... but I was flying the mSR. Imagine that, I flipped it over, and continued flying. Wish all heli's were like that!I need one of those to fly in my office. Tried to fly my .90 in there but man is my wife pissed now!
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10-01-2009 12:00 AM  11 years ago
zaw

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I dumb thumbed on HBK. I pretty much rebuild the whole thing, replaced all worn out part etc, then test flew it.
I don't do any 3d I like doing those tail-walk tricks, which doesn't work too well without idle-up, fell right onto asphalt and end up rebuilding the whole heli again for the rest of the day.
ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425
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10-23-2009 03:08 PM  11 years ago
Melnic

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Forgot the Idle up again!

Came down on it's head.
2nd time this season I forgot to hit the idle up.
Gear, mainshaft,spindle,flybar possibly the rotor hub is all bent up cause the top bolt snapped off.
All 3 of the stock Blueray nylon gear'd servos (I already planned upgrading to 65MGs)

I have near full rpm at point 1, maybe I should go ahead and set up - or -6 pitch to better get out of trouble if this happens again? Or maybe I should hit myself with a brick before I fly each time to remind myself that even when I'm farting around hovering at the beginning of a flight, I should be in idle up anyway.
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10-23-2009 06:22 PM  11 years ago
racin06

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I've just gotten into the habit of flipping to Idle Up as soon as the heli ascends from the ground.
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10-23-2009 06:53 PM  11 years ago
Gregor99

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I always start in idle-up and just switch out of the throttle hold. To land, I usally hover a couple feet off the ground (less with HBK2) and hit throttle hold. A good soft start isn't just a convenience feature.Revolectrix Beta Team
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10-23-2009 06:59 PM  11 years ago
Melnic

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I've just gotten into the habit of flipping to Idle Up as soon as the heli ascends from the ground.
Yea, that's what I have been doing for the past 30+ flights since the last time I did this. Then today, I forgot

I wonder if fender recognizes the battery

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11-22-2009 05:55 AM  11 years ago
jwhitacre

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Did you crash today?
Yeppers I slammed my 450 into the batting cage at the local field Guess I was a little lower than I thought Anyway the airframe is pretty much toast so I'm deciding if I should get another 450 or upgrade to a 500.
Depleting the world of parts, one crash at a time!!
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