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09-20-2009 01:10 AM  11 years ago
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pvande

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30v2 to 50 conversion - couple of questions
I am going to upgrade my 30V2 to a 50 and have a couple of questions...

Thinking of the new Redline RL-53H for the motor - any problems fitting that into the 50?

Will the Redline fit the standard 50 size motor mount (PV0107) or do I need to order a specific motor mount?

Thinking of using the governor on the Spektrum AR7100 - any experience with that governor on the Redline, good or bad?

I currently use a carbsmart and have been very happy with it - does it fit easily with the new Redline? It took some work to make it fit on the OS37...

Lastly I've been struggling with my clutch on the 30 - this is the 3rd set and it keeps being very tight - I have to hold on tight when starting the motor and even at idle the clutch grips and spins the blades. Any suggestion for where to look before I try another clutch and bell?
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09-20-2009 01:27 AM  11 years ago
JeffKollin

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All I can tell you is the new Redline TT53 has awesome power hooked up to a Redline TT high flow pipe.Same setup in my new SE.Buddy of mine had the 53 with a different pipe and every pipe he tried choked the motor.He changed to the high flow pipe and it woke his heli right up.
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09-20-2009 01:29 AM  11 years ago
JeffKollin

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If you are going to convert to a 50 get the titan boom and spend the extra cash and change the head over to the SE head.You wont regret it (15 degrees oh my)
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09-20-2009 01:40 AM  11 years ago
Levi

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What does it take to change the 50 to the SE?
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09-20-2009 01:54 AM  11 years ago
Levi

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I'm doing the same thing going from a 30 to a 50 using a OS Hyper 50 want to change to a metal head block and Stabilizer Control Cage will the SE parts fit on the V2?
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09-20-2009 02:24 AM  11 years ago
JeffKollin

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The SE is a 50V2 heli.the only difference is in the head from the auto rotation gear up to the top off the head.They are also running the blade grips upside down.Go to heliproz to the raptor parts heli specific and look at the se parts list.all the parts for the se are only head parts.Its around 200.00 for everything.
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09-20-2009 02:27 AM  11 years ago
David Blain

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pvande-
You stated your struggling with the clutch issue, Let me ask did you put a "new" clutch shoe on when you put on a new clutch bell?

Reason being is if the clutch shoe is sprung (shoes spread out) no matter what clutch bell you put on it's gonna want to grab and turn.

Or did you do a Re-line on your clutch bell yourself?

Most issues with clutches grabbing are two fold:
-Clutch has been realigned and inadequate clearance is allowed.
-Clutch is sprung, so shoes are always pushed out and dragging on bell.

Let us know, simple issue to fix buddy.
David Blain
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09-20-2009 01:01 PM  11 years ago
S Bell

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The SE is a 50V2 heli.the only difference is in the head from the auto rotation gear up to the top off the head.
Look a little deeper into the numerous other changes, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Additionally there are a few SE items not listed on the heliproz site.

Stephen
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09-24-2009 12:38 PM  11 years ago
MartyH

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I timed my upgrade 30 to a 50 with a recent crash. I took that opportunity to change the tail to a 50 while still running the OS37. When I ding it again I'll change the gears and go to a 50 and 600mm blades. If you really like your Raptor, keep going. otherwise, I bet you can pickup a Raptor 50 or 50se pretty cheap and not have to sacrifice your current setup.
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09-25-2009 04:44 AM  11 years ago
NM_Mark

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I've now upgraded 2 Raptor 30's to 50's - the first time I did it, it made the Heli so much fun, I had to upgrade my other 30 to a 50. Both have the Redline 53, and they both fly super! Plenty of power. One I added the Titan Boom and 8.7 gearing, with the 620mm blades, and it's actually my favorite.

The PV0107 mount will not work, it's for the old style TT 50, the 53 has the same bolt spacing as the OS Hyper, I can't remember the part number off the top of my head - you can use the Revolution Raptor 50 mount, it's what I used on the second conversion, with the Revolution 50 fan - the fan number on HeliHobby is RVO1207, and the mount is part number RVO1208. The standard 50 gearing is a 10 tooth pinion with the 85 tooth ring gear, the 8.7 gearing for the Titan is a 11 tooth pinion with the 91 tooth ring gear. The 8.7 gearing on the Titan gave it more power, made it more fun to fly (higher head speed). Either way (standard 50 or Titan 50) is fun, both are fun to fly (more fun than the 30) - only thing was more fuel, the 53 uses a bit more than the OS37 I had before. But I wouldn't go back.

Just my opinion,

Mark
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09-25-2009 07:11 PM  11 years ago
jschenck

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The PV0107 mount will not work, it's for the old style TT 50, the 53 has the same bolt spacing as the OS Hyper, I can't remember the part number off the top of my head
fyi - The 'old' TT-50H engine mount is part # PV0107TT and can be identified by the slight green tint anodizing. If you have a silver PV0107 it will fit the OS-50 and TT-53RL and all other 50's that have the same bolt pattern as the OS-50. I have a green mount but sold the engine that matched it. Also if you do run across a TT50H they did change the engine mount spacing on it so you'll need to check it to see if you'd use the silver mount or the green mount.
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09-30-2009 02:21 AM  11 years ago
heliflyer3

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Thanks for all the post on the Mtr mount...Im looking to do the same thing and was just looking at the old 50 Mtr Mount on Ebay. Thanks guys...saved me some cash thereFly it like it's your buddys bird
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09-30-2009 03:30 AM  11 years ago
jschenck

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I learned the green vs. silver mount the hard way

http://runryder.com/t340134p1
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