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09-19-2009 10:57 PM  11 years ago
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Timer, A plea for the future radio development
a plea for future radio manufactures, it might take them 20 years but perhaps, just perhaps, they read this thread, and remember this little function then

Add the functionallity to let % throttle output control the timer, not stick, not tons of logic on switches, its not complex at all, just "if throttle-out % > X" start the timer, stop if lower.

Then it would work just like a stick timer on my 12X, BUT it would stop in Throttle Hold, it would never stop in Idle-Up, or if for some reason I had two normal curves, it would work.

No complex logic needed, not hard to do, but it would really make for a good feature.

Of course I dont forsee this happening anytime soon, but it sure would have been nice.
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09-19-2009 11:04 PM  11 years ago
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I think a neat timer for electrics would be the 80% rule..have something that reads the MAH consumtion of the battery and relays it to the radio..adjusted to whatever % you want so the timer goes off when it hits that percetange value...that way you could mix and match batteries
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09-19-2009 11:32 PM  11 years ago
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For electrics I agree, but above solution would work for all, as a timer function only.

We might see intelligent LVC faster then we think, CC has incorporated datalogger in their new ICE ESC's, its only missing a piece of software...
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09-20-2009 01:32 AM  11 years ago
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intelligent LVC
Now were talking!

also while their at it, another thing is make the sound LOUDER, or maybe adjustable.
I put the fun in dysFUNctional :)
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09-20-2009 01:38 AM  11 years ago
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My 10C radio does this. It uses a logic switch. I learned it from a video example somewhere.Tom
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09-20-2009 01:59 AM  11 years ago
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Rig up a Piezo Buzzer, I bet you could get one loud enough to here it from the heli, that is if was an electric heli. Maybe CC would have a trigger you could set the mahs for it to close a set of contacts and make the buzzer go off.Stan
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09-20-2009 02:01 AM  11 years ago
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The Future is already here. It is called the SD10G. This radio already does this.

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09-20-2009 02:07 AM  11 years ago
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Ya but it doesn't sound like a Spektrum or JR, more like that off brand radio from Japan. Stan
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09-20-2009 02:31 AM  11 years ago
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The Future is already here. It is called the SD10G. This radio already does this.
Ya but it doesn't sound like a Spektrum or JR, more like that off brand radio from Japan.
Quantity has little to do with quality. There's no other radio available today as stick-to-servo fast as an Airtronics SD-10G, and as TMoore points out, it also performs several useful functions no others can. Its firmware is upgradeable by the user, so as new features are thought up -- badda-boom, badda bing.

It's a worthy successor to the Stylus -- which for more than a decade was previously the fastest radio we could buy -- and which also wasn't as well known as the Fords, Chryslers and Chevys of RC transmitters.

Why drive one of those when you can drive a Porsche -- at a lower cost?

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09-20-2009 03:28 AM  11 years ago
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I hope you know I was just kidding. That is a nice radio, but I could never use one as sophisticated as it is. I have a hard time finding two switches on a DX7, let alone all of those. A radio like that is for the younger crowd.

I still think my Piezo Buzzer is a good idea.
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09-20-2009 03:29 AM  11 years ago
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I hope you know I was just kidding.
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09-20-2009 06:02 AM  11 years ago
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I did two flights today and forgot to start my timer on my DX7 both times <sigh>. Had to guesstimate and look at my Eagletree data afterward. If the DX7 would start the timer even on throttle up I would be happy. I know many other manfs do this. But if the radio could "if throttle-out % > X" that would be the bomb.even not doing anything would have been better than nothing...
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09-20-2009 11:44 AM  11 years ago
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If the DX7 would start the timer even on throttle up I would be happy.
Amen to that, I don't know how many times I've forgotten to start the timer and almost always cut the flight short.
I believe it was my 8103 that would beep at every minute mark and then start beeping somewhere around 30 seconds before the set time. That timer still had to be started manually.
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09-21-2009 01:56 PM  11 years ago
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There's no other radio available today as stick-to-servo fast as an Airtronics SD-10G,
GimbalFan - what's the evidence for that statement may I ask as I don't see the SD10G listed in JKOS' well-known latency test results? Has someone else tested the SD10G using JKOS methodology? If so, I'd be very interested to see how fast this radio really is
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09-21-2009 03:11 PM  11 years ago
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The testing that Sanwa uses is the exact methodology that JKos uses.

TM
Part 107.
The only ZERO flight hour certificate in the world.
It's like getting a driver's license without the driver's test.
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09-21-2009 03:53 PM  11 years ago
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OK. And the figures are?
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09-21-2009 03:55 PM  11 years ago
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Airtronics SD-10G:

Min: 7.36ms
Max: 16.3ms
Ave: 11.83ms

Futaba 10C (Futaba is a Trademark of Futaba Corporation and Dist by Great Planes):

Min: 9ms
Max: 29ms
Ave: 19ms

JR 9303 & R1221rx (JR is a Trademark of JR Radios Japan and Dist by Horizon Hobby)

Min: 25ms
Max: 47ms
Ave: 36ms

JR 12X

Min: 21.5ms
Max: 43.5ms
Ave: 32.5ms
Part 107.
The only ZERO flight hour certificate in the world.
It's like getting a driver's license without the driver's test.
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09-21-2009 04:52 PM  11 years ago
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Great. Thank you. Message I take away is that the SD10G and 10C (using the figures for the High-Speed FAAST mode which you didn't post) are the current kings of the hill for speed.

Here in the UK, there's no sign of the SD10G becoming available which is a real shame. Ages ago I used to have an Infinity 660 radio which I liked a lot apart from the styling and horrible rocker switches. I really wanted the Infinity 1000 after reading the review in Rotory Modeller. It was a radio way ahead of its time but the UK importers refused even to acknowledge its existence let alone get one for me!!! I ended up going with Futaba when the 9Z came out as it was so much more flexible than anything else available in this country at the time
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09-21-2009 05:13 PM  11 years ago
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If you have the HS RX's on the Futaba the latency numbers are pretty much a wash between the 10C and the SD10G. To be fair I haven't seen the testing between the two.

TM
Part 107.
The only ZERO flight hour certificate in the world.
It's like getting a driver's license without the driver's test.
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10-22-2009 04:15 AM  11 years ago
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I brought this topic up at IRCHA with the JR/Spektrum crowd. Futaba has had this feature for many years in it's 9C and I think the 8U's may have had it as well. Those at the JR booth basically said that the DX-7 and 9303 radios are old programming and that no one ever cared about this feature until electrics became widely popular. They said that all future mid to high end radios would have some form of this feature but that there would be no software upgrades for our DX-7s or 9303s.
I flew a Futaba 9C from the time it came out until the DX-7 hit the market and I truly relied on that built in timer. I mostly miss it these days when flying my 450s since I don't like to push the batteries too far since the current battery technology has packs that still put out great power even though they are destroying themselves.

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