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09-18-2009 05:24 PM  11 years ago
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Judge Clay Land to birthers.......Get lost!
What a complete and total waste of the courts time and taxpayer money.

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U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land tossed out on Wednesday a complaint by an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq by questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama.

Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever again files in his court a similar “frivolous” lawsuit — a document that at one point the judge states that a middle school student could find irony in.

“(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States,” Land states in his order. “Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’”

* Judge Land's court ruling

Rhodes, who filed her complaint Sept. 4 in the Columbus Division of U.S. District Court, argued that some facts point to Obama not being naturalized or possibly an illegal immigrant.

“This plaintiff cannot in good conscience obey orders originating from a chain of command from this merely de facto president,” Rhodes’ complaint states. “This plaintiff cannot be lawfully compelled to obey this de facto president’s orders.”

In his order, Land states in a footnote that Obama defeated seven opponents in a “grueling” primary campaign that cost the contenders more than $300 million. Obama then moved on to the general election, where he faced Sen. John McCain, who Land states got $84 million to wage his campaign.

“It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the president was not eligible for the office he sought,” Land says.

The judge adds that Congress hasn’t started impeachment proceedings against Obama, appears satisfied that he can hold the office and has rejected the suggestion he isn’t.

Taitz, who Land says has fueled the “birther movement” with her litigation, hasn’t appeared to have won any of her claims, the judge said. Taitz pressed her agenda by filing the complaint on behalf of Rhodes, a doctor who had her final two years of medical school paid for by taxpayers, Land states.

Rhodes doesn’t want to be discharged, relieved from her two-year obligation and hasn’t previously complained about any orders she’s received, including ones since Obama took office, Land says. The judge adds that Rhodes’ “conscientious objections” to serving Obama as commander in chief can be accommodated if she isn’t deployed.

The judge specifically addresses Rhodes’ “birther” arguments, including allegations that Obama might have used 149 addresses and 39 Social Security numbers before becoming president and the existence of what Taitz claims is Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.

“Finally, in a remarkable shifting of the traditional legal burden of proof, plaintiff unashamedly alleges that defendant has the burden to prove his ‘natural born’ status,” Land states. “Any middle school civics student would readily recognize the irony of abandoning fundamental principles upon which our country was founded in order to purportedly ‘protect and preserve’ those very principles.

“Unlike in ‘Alice in Wonderland,’ simply saying something is so does not make it so,” Land says.

Land ordered that the defendants — who include Obama, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Col. Thomas MacDonald, Fort Benning garrison commander — will recover any costs from the complaint from Rhodes.
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09-18-2009 05:46 PM  11 years ago
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About time someone put the wacko right wingers in their rightful place! These fools' political center is so far right they call centrists liberals. Frankly, the zombie disciples who follow Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity/O'Reilly/Van Susteren make me sick! Same goes for that loser Sarah Palin. Get over yourselves. You lost. Go away. Virtually nobody fears the right anymore because they are so extreme they are laughable and not remotely viable as a political factor.
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09-18-2009 05:50 PM  11 years ago
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Uhhh not really. This guy used an assinine excuse to try and get out of overseas duty. OK - he's a punk. Now the right wing can get a little extreme, granted. You claim the Libs don't have their extremists??? Wow. What IS happening is that people are seeing middle ground is the only way, and boys, your Obumma does not even come close to being a moderate. Oh, and by the way, all of the "crazy right wingers" you mention, none have intentions of running for an office. Now the left on the other hand.....
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09-18-2009 09:33 PM  11 years ago
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U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter set a trial date in the Keyes vs. Obama case for January 26, 2010.

It's about time a judge decided to look at the evidence!
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09-18-2009 09:36 PM  11 years ago
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That judge will likely disappear a week before the trial.Obama isnt going to let anyone investigate the legitemacy of his presidency.He knows what the outcome will be.
It is a waste of tax payers money,Obama should just resign and all will be fine.
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09-18-2009 09:41 PM  11 years ago
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Before long Obama will be on welfare and picking cotton.Full Throttle Spooning Leads To Forking
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09-18-2009 09:42 PM  11 years ago
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Before long Obama will be on welfare and picking cotton.
Just a matter of time.
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09-19-2009 01:41 AM  11 years ago
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What's the most barren and lonely place in the world.

Answer: A living, working brain cell in a Liberal's brain,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,looking for another like it.
Don't blame me, I did'nt vote for him.
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09-19-2009 02:50 AM  11 years ago
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Fellas, there's only one bona-fide was to settle these political arguements once and for all: "You're Momma's So Fat" dissin' jokes.

May the best joke (and political philosophy) win.
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09-19-2009 05:36 AM  11 years ago
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Before long Obama will be on welfare and picking cotton.
Damper, I'd expect an ignorant comment like that from someone who doesn't even know how to spell his own occupation. What exactly is a "manuel" machinist?
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09-19-2009 04:28 PM  11 years ago
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This is really interesting, but not surprising. It seems Oily Taint wasn't even authorized by Connie Rhodes to file the suit in the first place and it isn't the first time she's done this.

Washington Independent

Bad news for Orly Taitz, the indefatigable birther attorney. On September 17, she filed a motion of consideration on behalf of her client Capt. Connie Rhodes, asking for her deployment to be delayed. It was, typically for Taitz, overheated and incoherent: “[T]his court ignores some of the soundest and most carefully researched and professionally assembled and presented evidence, collated and substantiated by a former agent of England’s Fabled ‘Scotland Yard.’”

Taitz’s motion was dismissed in an exasperated decision by Judge Clay Land that should definitely be read in full–I’ve provided an excerpt after the jump. (Erick Erickson of RedState is a fan of the dismissal.)

But the twist today comes from Capt. Rhodes herself. She has sent a letter to Judge Clay Land, blasting Taitz for filing the motion to stay her deployment without even asking her.

I do not wish for Ms. Taitz to file any future motions or represent me in any way in this court. It is my plan to file a complaint with the California State Bar due to her reprehensible and unprofessional actions.

Connie Rhodes letter to the court.
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09-19-2009 04:52 PM  11 years ago
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It's about time a judge decided to look at the evidence!
Which fake "Kenyan" birth certificate should the judge look at as her evidence? She supposedly has 2 now.

The reason the cases keep getting tossed is their is no evidence. She is attempting to place the burden of proof on the defendant and that's not how the US court system works as defined by our Constitution.
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09-19-2009 05:15 PM  11 years ago
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That's all well and good but it still doesn't answer the one fundamental question at the root of the whole issue, why has Obama had his laywers block the release of his full birth certificate and school records? All they will allow out into the public domain is an abstract record of live birth. All requests for the full records so far have been blocked. A reasonable person would ask, if there's nothing wrong why are they doing that?
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09-19-2009 05:35 PM  11 years ago
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It seems Oily Taint
Real mature
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09-19-2009 05:46 PM  11 years ago
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why has Obama had his laywers block the release of his full birth certificate and school records?
........that's not how the US court system works as defined by our Constitution.
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09-19-2009 07:17 PM  11 years ago
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Real mature
Yeah I know.

You should check out her Facebook page
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09-20-2009 04:54 PM  11 years ago
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Oily Taint at the 9/12 Rally.

Could one of the Glenn Beck fans explain to me what the 9/12 movement was supposed to be about again?

Watch at YouTube

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09-20-2009 06:23 PM  11 years ago
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Could one of the Glenn Beck fans explain to me what the 9/12 movement was supposed to be about again?
People are finding more and more reasons to be anti-Obama.Its hard to pinpoint just one definative thing anymore.
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09-20-2009 06:26 PM  11 years ago
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Damper wrote: Before long Obama will be on welfare and picking cotton.
and McLovin cosigned with: Before long Obama will be on welfare and picking cotton.

Just a matter of time.
What exactly is that supposed to mean? Snide and ignorant comments like that are the reason many people tend to shy away from the right's politics (not that the right represents that immoral behavior). And while it is my belief that most of our Country's Left and Right brethren are moral and decent people, it's examples within the aforementioned quotes that insult and offend others.

Loren
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09-20-2009 07:59 PM  11 years ago
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Could one of the Glenn Beck fans explain to me what the 9/12 movement was supposed to be about again?
First, I'm not a Beck fan and if you've read anything I've written about him you know that.

As for the main point of your question how about,
  • Out of control spending.
  • Bailing out banks that didn't deserve it.
  • Bailing out auto manufacturers that didn't deserve it.
  • Wanting to tear down and rebuild the healthcare system with a contentious plan to the tune of a trillion dollars that we don't have rather than addressing the problems with the system that can be fixed right now with full bipartisan support. I.e. Medicare fraud and inefficiencies.
  • Wanting to legalize all the illegal immigrants.
There's a start for ya. Give it a few more months and I'm sure we'll be able to add to that list.
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