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09-17-2009 10:58 PM  11 years ago
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stonebroke_heli

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Crashing good?
First thing I should mention here is that I am very competitive and always try to push myself to be as good as possible at stuff, others may have a different outlook.

So I've been thinking and I think crashing is sometimes a good thing. I mean it shows that you are pushing it, right? I come from a freestyle skiing background and we always thought if you weren't falling then you weren't getting better. I know its not completely true but it is a good way to make yourself feel better about crashing!

I say all of this because I have only been flying for about 6 months now and I advanced very quickly and have only had one real crash that was on my old 450, I have been flying my 500 for about 2 months now and gotten way better but no crashes, could this be because I am not pushing myself enough?

I feel like there needs to be a balance between not crashing too much and not getting stuck in a rut to where you dont improve your skills.

I need to start pushing it, and find my limits! haha
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09-17-2009 11:25 PM  11 years ago
WJackson

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Real life crashes are going to happen, but I prefer to keep the crashing on the sim with a reset button.RIP Roman
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09-17-2009 11:28 PM  11 years ago
stonebroke_heli

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Oh I do my share of crashes on the sim, but then I find I am too scared to do stuff that I can do with my eyes closed on the sim... Eventually I need to step up and do them on the real thing.
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09-17-2009 11:47 PM  11 years ago
WJackson

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Go about 5 awww 5h1ts high and go for it. If you can do it every time on the sim, the only thing thats holding you back is pucker factor.RIP Roman
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09-17-2009 11:58 PM  11 years ago
stonebroke_heli

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Very true about the pucker factor, I have more trouble orienting high up, ahhh! There is no easy way, I need to just start stepping up.
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09-18-2009 12:13 AM  11 years ago
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good is when you save your heli's hiney just before the crash. every other flight i come dang close and pull it out at the last second.

wrecking proves nothing and just pisses your wallet off
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09-18-2009 12:45 AM  11 years ago
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Crashing good?
Crashing not good. Crashing is expensive and time consuming and implies you are exceeding your capabilities as we all do even the best of the best.
Crashing = good spectacle.
Crashing = hey guys, watch this.
Crashing = I'm inedaquately experienced
Crashing = mechanical failure
Crashing = I've got more money than sence
So what the heck is this thread all about
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09-18-2009 12:58 AM  11 years ago
stonebroke_heli

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More about me saying I would rather live my life and not worry about crashing then sit in the same spot and hover all day making sure not to crash. I know crashing is never good, it is part of it though, and I always see people crash and throw a fit over it. I feel that it is very immature of people to do that, so I am just saying I know I am going to crash, at some point everything fails, no use in getting upset about it. Might as well have fun with my toy...
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09-18-2009 01:15 AM  11 years ago
tucfaz

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so I am just saying I know I am going to crash, at some point everything fails, no use in getting upset about it. Might as well have fun with my toy...
Crashes are inevitable, and I agree that the key point is having fun with our toy, but too many crashes will stress the fun out of flying..

We'll learn when we know why we crash, and it will be fun re-building, but crashing in manner like I've seen some people trying to nail piroflips and crashing and we know it's going to crash because the pilot is always doing the same mistake of not knowing what he's doing, and a few months down, we'll see these dudes heading somewhere else looking at other hobbies to de-stress
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09-18-2009 01:22 AM  11 years ago
stonebroke_heli

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"Crashes are inevitable, and I agree that the key point is having fun with our toy, but too many crashes will stress the fun out of flying.."

I agree, and I think that fear of crashing is what make flying so fun, thats why I cant have fun with my MCX anymore. Who doesnt like the idea of super fragile $1000+ machine screaming through the air, all of which can be ended with so much as a touch of a blade? I LOVE IT!!!! And pushing it makes it all that much better.
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09-18-2009 01:34 AM  11 years ago
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Ahh young grasshopper you have much to learn.

Yes some folks will say "If you're not crashing you're not trying hard enough". Do those folks pay their bills skiing? The ones who know do try not to crash so that they can compete again, when you're broke off you can't compete= you don't earn any money, feed your self, pay the bills, ect, ect...

When you fly helis if you crash you cant fly until you buy new parts, rebuild, Pay the bills, Ect, Ect.

So yeah if I was rich I might crash more, but that would still take away from my other time. Unless you pay someone to fix your stuff, witch i would never trust. So that put us back to, Try not to crash and just have fun. This toy don't pay for it self.
Fear is the little death,The mind killer. I will allow my fear to pass through me.Only I will remain
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09-18-2009 01:47 AM  11 years ago
stonebroke_heli

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Yes some folks will say "If you're not crashing you're not trying hard enough". Do those folks pay their bills skiing? The ones who know do try not to crash so that they can compete again, when you're broke off you can't compete= you don't earn any money, feed your self, pay the bills, ect, ect...
Yeah, some pay their bills, and I was reffering to small crashes skiing, not like real injuries. So I guess it can go the same with helis, I dont want to wreck a heli to where its not repairable, but I am willing to put in a crash or two in pursuit of becoming a better pilot.
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09-18-2009 02:37 AM  11 years ago
sjw

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stonebroke_heli

When I started flying helis about 4years ago, I was
trying stuff I was not ready for and this lead to crashes.
It was only on a 450 size heli so repair bills we not
that hi, but I reckon it made me advance faster as I was
catching up to friends flying skills that had
started 6months before me.

Even now I will still try moves that I have
only just started to learn on the sim on my
90s knowing that I may crash.

This attitude has come from my dirt bike riding,
where if I crashed, I was the one getting hurt.
But this did not stop me trying new jumps.

So is crashing good?
I don't like crashing helis, but I always think
Its better the heli gets hurt and not my body
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09-18-2009 02:51 AM  11 years ago
stonebroke_heli

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So is crashing good?
I don't like crashing helis, but I always think
Its better the heli gets hurt and not my body
Exactly!!! At least if you crash your heli you can go grab your bike or anything else you feel like doing.

I guess thats something I failed to mention, heli's give me the same adrenaline rush I get from doing tricks on skis, only I dont risk my body in doing so (unless you hit yourself, which could be bad)
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09-18-2009 02:59 AM  11 years ago
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Crashing Good?
Kimosabe, crashing bad. Paris Hilton, good.
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09-18-2009 03:00 AM  11 years ago
what_the_helli

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I always see people crash and throw a fit over it.
Come fly with me and you'll see the other side

I put the fun in dysFUNctional :)
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09-18-2009 03:49 AM  11 years ago
Sonic88

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IMO. Crashes will happen. Until you get past the fear of crashing, your progression will be held back. That being said, you should always fly within your abilities for the most part. For me, I will not try something in real life until I am 85%+ sure that I can attempt it without crashing. Then, I go up at least 3 mistakes high and work on it until I have gotten good at it, or at least good at bailing out safely, and then I bring it down closer. I understand that crashes do happen and I have accepted that, and I do not have that fear of crashing which helps me push myself. There is pushing yourself to fly better, and there is just being stupid and flying beyond your ability. The two are quite different.Procrastinators of the world unite ... tomorrow.
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09-18-2009 03:54 AM  11 years ago
Sonic88

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haha yea Tony is one of the happiest guys I have seen crash.

I dont get very emotional either way. Not really upset, not really happy. Unless it was a funny crash. I am usually more concerned with what happened so I dont do it again.

Here is another post-crash Tony face for ya
Procrastinators of the world unite ... tomorrow.
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09-18-2009 05:39 AM  11 years ago
stonebroke_heli

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I'm glad to see that some people are optimistic, even after a crash! I will be sure to be the same way, still say there is no use in beating myself up over it.
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09-18-2009 12:46 PM  11 years ago
Frank Bostwick

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I crash a lot so in this area I can really give some experienced input! Id say a crash never nets out at "Good" but that does not mean they dont have value. The value can only be realised if you learn from and completely understand why it happened. Sounds simple but in the moment its real easy to go rushing out to inspect the damage with 100 questions and emotions all popping up and then forget the what and why of the crash. Cant tell you how many times I did just that and walking back, pile of twisted stuff in my hand, wondered, "What the hell just happened?" Now, unfortunately, I am in the habit of going thru the last few seconds of flight before walking out to collect the bill and start the many hours of work required to get it back to the sweet spot. I have also learned to smile on the long walk, its all good, you just need to learn its part of the process. I do really take offence at the pure dumb thumbs crashes but never for the crashes I was on the edge of my skills and trying stuff Im not comfortable with yet.RIP ROMAN
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