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09-16-2009 12:50 PM  11 years ago
DougsRC

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fender, watched the vids again and I am amazed by how quiet the Atom is for a machine of that size.
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09-16-2009 01:11 PM  11 years ago
Heli_KV

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Nice flying. Inverted is pretty low and flips are great!
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09-17-2009 03:43 AM  11 years ago
mgjones

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Wow.. Maybe one day I'll even be able to hover right-side-up that well. First Heli - ESky BeltCP v2 2.4G
The addiction begins!
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09-19-2009 12:06 AM  11 years ago
MMike

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This is my Novus FP. Since it's "crash forgiving" it's an ideal indoor orientation trainer. Not being Coax, it's a challenging bird for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ewitZG8xY
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09-19-2009 12:19 AM  11 years ago
Gregor99

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Very nice Mike. Almost looked like you were going to start a backwards circle. Pretty good forward cirlces for such a confined space.

What do you think about that Novus? Didn't you also have Gaui or another small heli? I was kind of thinking about an MSR to do when the weather turns bad, which could be any day now.
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09-19-2009 12:29 AM  11 years ago
DougsRC

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Ohhh MMikey---Me Likey!!! that's the sheet, MMike !
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09-19-2009 12:45 AM  11 years ago
DougsRC

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i will soon once i get my camera back from geek squad and i get my pitch right on my heli.
I believe you hbk2,
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09-19-2009 01:00 AM  11 years ago
MMike

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What do you think about that Novus? Didn't you also have Gaui or another small heli? I was kind of thinking about an MSR
I like the Novus FP, however, had I known about the MSR coming out, I would have gone with it instead. The MSR hovers almost as easily as a coax. That can be good or bad I guess.

I do have the Gaui's but with Buddy the boxer, I can't risk flying a CP in the house..He already bit the Novus in flight!

As it turns out, I am making better progress with the Novus B/C I'm not afraid to crash it as it's waaay durable.
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09-19-2009 03:05 AM  11 years ago
racin06

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Nice flying MMike and I like that little Novus FP . Speaking of the MSR, I just ordered the BNF version and should have that little thing in my hands next week. The nice thing about the MSR is that it can be set up in a stable manner for the beginner or not-so-stable and agressive for the experienced heli pilot.

I bought the MSR to fly around the house on those upcoming cold winter days. Also, my 10 year old son now is expressing some interest in learning to fly helis. The MSR looks like it may be a very good trainer heli. So, if my son masters flying the MSR, I will probably move him towards a HBFP and then on to a 450 size heli, like my Mini-Titan. Time will tell.
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09-19-2009 03:15 AM  11 years ago
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i bet you do dougs i bet you do.
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09-19-2009 03:34 AM  11 years ago
Gregor99

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Racin, glad to hear you are getting an MSR. I'd like to hear your comparison between the MSR and an HBFP. They are different sizes and you can't really run an HBFP inside. But given the smaller size of the MSR, I do wonder its that much more stable than an HBFP.Revolectrix Beta Team
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09-19-2009 11:52 AM  11 years ago
racin06

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I'll give a full flight report on the MSR . I too am curious how the MSR compares to the HBFP.
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09-19-2009 12:02 PM  11 years ago
MMike

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I flew the MSR at the LHS.

As I mentioned, it's very stable, like a coax almost.
The nice thing about the MSR is that it can be set up in a stable manner for the beginner or not-so-stable and agressive for the experienced heli pilot.
I did not know that.

I do know you can crash it 50 times, likely W/O damage.

These 1 to 2 oz. FP helis are the way to go inside.

Much better than the Gauis IMHO. MUCH BETTER!!

I had to be so darn careful with my EP100 and 200, I didn't learn as much B/C I couldn't try anything I hadn't already mastered.

I went with the Novus FP vs. the Novus CP for that reason. Carefree flying.
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09-19-2009 02:44 PM  11 years ago
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As I mentioned, it's very stable, like a coax almost.
It is single rotor coax. Look at design of 45 degrees flybar. The same as in CB100, the same as in Quark FP, the same as in coax. People report that it even can develop TBE. This flybar design is self stabilizing for heli. When you go off sticks, heli goes to hover. Actually the same with 4#3. You need to push it for it to fly - totally different technique then CP.

You can try the following to see what I talk (at least on 4#3): from hands free hovering push it to slow forward fly and get out of sticks. Heli will pitch up and stop. Try with other directions - same story. If it does not hover hands free (reasonably for sure) - heli is not tuned or there are air currents.

What do you think guys?
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09-19-2009 02:53 PM  11 years ago
MMike

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TBE.
Wassat??
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09-19-2009 03:10 PM  11 years ago
Heli_KV

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Toilet Bowl Effect. It develops by coaxes mainly, when heli goes into hardly controlled movement like above mentioned. It usually signals that flybar is not setup right. It is fun to see if it is not at big extent, when heli slowly whirls around. But usually it is deadly for heli - very hard to compensate. Heli goes to the ground, due to the loss of vertical lifting force. It is feature of badly tuned 45 degrees stabiliing flybar.
As least thats I got from reading and saw a lot in my CX2, when I did not know how to tune and to fly. Never saw this in 90 degress flybar, but it does not mean it does not exist there. That I do not know.
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09-19-2009 05:45 PM  11 years ago
MMike

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Here's HELI KV with a wonderful 4#3B flight.

Good demonstration of what this heli can do in capable hands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYCP...player_embedded
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09-19-2009 09:17 PM  11 years ago
Heli_KV

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Thanks Mike. It is heli which flies. I just holding on to Tx
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