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06-21-2009 04:13 PM  11 years ago
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leeinshirley@ti

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Larger helis or small electics?
What do you heli flyers prefer the larger heli from 50 size up or the smaller 500 and below? for both general flying an 3D.
I think i prefer the larger heli myself I think!!.
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06-21-2009 04:19 PM  11 years ago
Aaron29

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Small helicopters are nowhere near as stable as a larger helicopter. They wander a lot in position and especially the tail. They are very unpredictable, sometimes pitching or yawing for no reason at all. The wind really effects them and you are constantly correcting the chaotic movements.

Most of your coordination is spent just flying the helicopter. It is more difficult to perform 3D maneuvers because so much energy is spent just flying it.

A larger helicopter doesn't fly itself, but requires much less correcting to keep it in one spot and is FAR more predictable and stable in the wind. This allows you to fly it more advanced since you have brain bytes left over.
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06-21-2009 04:33 PM  11 years ago
chopper_crazy

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A large part of my decision is what I am doing with the machine and the weather. If it is windy out, I lean towards the bigger helis for stability. Wind doesn't seem to bother them as much. If I am practicing a new 3D move, I typically try it on a small bird first simply because they are cheaper to fix. Not to mention if you can do it with a small bird, it will be super easy with a big bird.It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!
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06-21-2009 04:47 PM  11 years ago
Aaron29

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Oh that brings up another point in favor of the larger heli.

With trying new tricks I tend to fly high so that I can recover if I mess it up.

With the large heli, high is high.

With the small heli, high is...well as high as I can get and still see the heli well, which isn't that high. If I try to fly the small heli as high as the big one I lose orientation because it is just too small. Losing orientation and learning new tricks go poorly together.

So you end up having to fly very close to yourself. Again not conducive to learning tricks because now you are concerned about hitting the ground or yourself.

The large heli is big as day at a good distance and this is never an issue.

There isn't ONE thing I can think of that makes me ever want to fly a small heli. People say they are beginners helis and I totally disagree. They are too difficult to fly. If anything, a 30 size or 50 size is a beginners heli.
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06-21-2009 04:52 PM  11 years ago
leeinshirley@ti

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thanks for the replys.any one els think that the bigger heli are the more popular or are the smaller models the way to go?
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06-21-2009 04:53 PM  11 years ago
Aaron29

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Well are you looking for what is BETTER or more POPULAR?

I'd say that smaller helis are more popular, but that is more likely due to the lower cost.
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06-21-2009 05:30 PM  11 years ago
JRjoe

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For the most part, bigger just flies better.
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06-21-2009 07:15 PM  11 years ago
QuantumPSI

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I fly both and appreciate both. To be honest, I wonder what "small" helicopters aaron is referring to cause my 450SE flies damn well (it can do hurricanes and tail holds fine). In light wind and a mild setup, it is just as stable as a nitro (for beginners I mean, not 3D maneuvers). I don't deny that a 450 requires more "attention" on the sticks than a larger one during 3D maneuvers, but like I said, with a mild setup, you can get them to be pretty stable for a beginner (flybar weights, limited cyclic travel, etc.)

I always try a maneuver on my 450 first but I will admit, there is a transition between large and small. As Aaron pointed out, "high" for a small and large heli are different. I noticed that I actually like to fly my nitros at the same height as my 450, so not much room for error. Still, you can get over this just by realizing it and going higher.

I like 450 and I like my 50 and 90s. I haven't had the pleasure of owning/flying a 500 yet, but maybe one day I will.
...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
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06-21-2009 07:43 PM  11 years ago
TaleGunner

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Bigger is betterCRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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06-21-2009 08:16 PM  11 years ago
LONEWOLF2440

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Larger sound better and more fun to flyMIKADO LOGO 600 TREX 550
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06-21-2009 08:31 PM  11 years ago
MattJen

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i fly 1/5 scale large turbine machines, i also have a trex 450 and a few indoor contra rotating..

They all have their merits, but the advantage of a small model like the 450 is you can go anywhere and fly, my turbines have to be at my club or i risk upsetting the locals..

When the weather is foul or work is really busy through the week, i can come home in the evening and have a hover of the trex in my back garden ( i'm on 2.4) so it keeps me sharp...

Yes bigger is better but bigger is not always convenient and practicle.. i like to be flying.
All The Best
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06-21-2009 08:48 PM  11 years ago
Olli-Pekka Mahrberg

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Larger helis or small electrics?
The only true answer is.. LARGE ELECTRICS!
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06-21-2009 09:17 PM  11 years ago
nivlek

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Another advantage with larger models is that they have more inertia to carry them through manouvers . At the moment I am having a lot of fun with an el cheapo HK450 fitted with the XMHobbies G401B gyro , but if the wind spped goes above 15mph I then prefer to fly larger machines . At the end of the day , it gets dark .
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06-21-2009 11:26 PM  11 years ago
DKNguyen

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There isn't ONE thing I can think of that makes me ever want to fly a small heli.
Cost?

Personally, I think it's a bit funny if a person does not fly a small heli because they they say it is too hard and preach about how you should improve your flying skills. You would think it would do nothing but improve your flying. But I suppose the same could be said about things like gyros.
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06-21-2009 11:34 PM  11 years ago
Ronald Thomas

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I like both but I seem to be flying the larger amchines these days.............RonTeam MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!
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06-21-2009 11:51 PM  11 years ago
JAGNZ

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Bigger is better
Yep.

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06-21-2009 11:55 PM  11 years ago
Gyronut

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Fly them all if you can.

They all have a place.

I have my indoor fleet for the winter and outside for the warmer months.

Anything , anywhere, anytime.
Rick
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06-22-2009 12:04 AM  11 years ago
DougsRC

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Cost?

Personally, I think it's a bit funny if a person does not fly a small heli because they they say it is too hard and preach about how you should improve your flying skills. You would think it would do nothing but improve your flying. But I suppose the same could be said about things like gyros.
Agree. I like small helis myself and they usually are cheaper to fix and maintain and no they are not as stable but a good pilot can make a small heli stable.
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06-22-2009 03:58 AM  11 years ago
Aaron29

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Personally, I think it's a bit funny if a person does not fly a small heli because they they say it is too hard and preach about how you should improve your flying skills. You would think it would do nothing but improve your flying. But I suppose the same could be said about things like gyros.
You said it, not me. You just confirmed small is harder to fly. So then while learning, why PURPOSELY make life difficult? Did you learn fast backwards flight without a gyro? Did you learn to ride a bike on a unicycle?

Bigger is better ESPECIALLY for learning! You spend more time thinking of the maneuver and less on the correcting the endless wandering.

Oh well. It's an opinion request post, and I gave my OPINION. How that is preaching I don't know.
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06-22-2009 04:15 AM  11 years ago
Aaron29

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Agree. I like small helis myself and they usually are cheaper to fix and maintain and no they are not as stable but a good pilot can make a small heli stable.
He can make it LOOK stable but he's fighting the sticks I guarantee you.
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