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06-16-2009 11:07 PM  11 years ago
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piranhafreak

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Castle Creations 10amp bec problems ??
Hi all i recently bought a Castle Creations 10 amp bec of a member here adn he told me that there are lots of people having problems with them failing ?is this true anyone having any issues with them ?
Mabey one day i will actually land one of these things !!
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06-16-2009 11:25 PM  11 years ago
Saint728

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I used one forever and never had a problem with mine. Remember not to use more then 10 amps through it or it will die.

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06-16-2009 11:47 PM  11 years ago
copperclad

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Hi
Castle Creations makes great products , But the 10 Amp rating is the MAX current rating , NOT the continuous current rating , the continuous rating is either 5 or 7 amps , depending on the input voltage , there is a PDF of the manual at Castle Creations , here is the link
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/cc_bec.html

I have two of the CC BECs and think they are Great little BECs , I think that as long as you run them within their ratings thay are very reliable

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06-17-2009 01:27 AM  11 years ago
wings19

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I have been running mine for awhile now on my Atom 500 with JR 3517's, a Spartan gyro, and a JR 8500G for it.

No problems...
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06-17-2009 02:50 AM  11 years ago
piranhafreak

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how do u figure out how many amps your drawing ?Mabey one day i will actually land one of these things !!
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06-17-2009 03:01 AM  11 years ago
Funky Trex

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Mine kept causing brownouts on the bench. It lost more voltage than any other reg I tested including some cheap no-name brands. It was from the first batch shipped, but I don't trust them enough to try another one to see if they fixed the problems There are plenty of better options IMO.

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06-17-2009 03:38 AM  11 years ago
piranhafreak

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hmm now im scared would hate to lose a whole heli do to a 20 dollar partMabey one day i will actually land one of these things !!
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06-17-2009 03:41 AM  11 years ago
Funky Trex

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There are a lot of people that use them and are very happy with them. There are many more positive reports than negative. Personally, I would go with a Medusa or Hercules BEC after testing them against my CC BEC.
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06-17-2009 03:51 AM  11 years ago
piranhafreak

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if u had a spar CC bec would you use it or pass on it for a different one ?Mabey one day i will actually land one of these things !!
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06-17-2009 04:14 AM  11 years ago
Funky Trex

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not a chance

I have used a CC35 speed control in my Trex for a very long time though... I just think the CC BEC is junk.
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06-17-2009 04:21 AM  11 years ago
piranhafreak

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good enough answer for me do u have a prefernce of what u like to use ?Mabey one day i will actually land one of these things !!
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06-17-2009 04:27 AM  11 years ago
mystar60

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Funkey - at $25 a pop for the bec that looks like a gallon of fuel you tossed into the trash.

Did you see the work around for Spektrum:

CC BEC/SPEKTRUM Compatibility instructions

Castle has learned of a slight incompatibility of the CC BEC with the SPEKTRUM AR 6100, 6200, 7000, JR 790 ScanSelect, and JR 2100 ScanSelect Synthesized receivers. There is a very easy work around for our customers who already have the CC BEC and we are making modifications to the components of all new CC BECs that are built from Nov. 1, 2007, forward.

The simple explanation is that the CC BEC, like most Castle products, is designed to be USB linkable via the signal wire on the servo connector. As part of that, the CC BEC will pull the signal wire to ground unless it is sending a signal on that line. Nothing out of the ordinary with this. Similarly, the Spektrum team designed these receivers to look for a grounded signal pin on the battery port in order to initiate binding. Nothing strange there either. Castle does something similar with our Berg receivers. The problem is that the two designs result in the CC BEC triggering the receiver's binding mode immediately upon power up. We have redesigned the CC BEC to facilitate the USB activities without initiating the binding mode.

For those of you with the affected CC BECs and Spektrum receivers there are at least three solutions:

1.Remove the orange signal wire from the CC BEC RX power lead before you plug the lead into the battery port on the receiver.
2.Plug the entire/intact lead from the CC BEC into any other port on the receiver.
3.Use a "Y" connector to plug the entire CC BEC lead into any port other than the BATT port on the receiver.
If you are unsatisfied with any of the above solutions, please simply send your CC BEC to Castle for upgrade.

Please note that this incompatibility will be immediately apparent. There are no known issues after the system is successfully powered up.

Thanks!
Team Castle
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06-17-2009 04:35 AM  11 years ago
Funky Trex

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Yes, I removed the signal wire and tried what they suggested. If you look closely at my pic, you can see the signal wire taped back. The problem was the same, once I started stressing the BEC it would lose a large amount of voltage and the RX would reset. I also tried many different votlage settings and 2S, 3S and 4S lipos all with the same results. I even tried different RXs (although they were all Spektrum). Also the large voltage drop issue would happen with any RX, not just Spektrum. It might not cause a brownout on other brand RXs, but the loss of full power to the servos would still be there.

Pirhana, I use a Medusa in my Logo and Trex and a Hercules in my 500.
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06-17-2009 06:26 PM  11 years ago
pistol974

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I use one in my Trex 500 with no problems. I've been using it for around a year now. I run Jr 3400g servos all around, a 401 gyro, and specktrum 7000 receiver. No mods to the bec. Funkey don't know anything Just kidding he has tested alot of becs and his cc was a turd. I got mine with the 500 in a trade, but if I were to get a new one it would be a different one just from seeing his act the way it did.

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06-18-2009 03:32 PM  11 years ago
Felino

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The big problem with the CC BEC is the thin output 22GA receiver wires. Digital servos can pull many amps at some moments causing brownout, therefore thin wires are not up to the job.
The key, that`s what I did, is to solder dual 18GA output wires/conectors, actually some high end regulators include dual output receiver wires from factory. No "power down" issues since having dual wires.
I also cut away the input conector and used plain solder, replaced the, servo style, battery conector with dean`s Ultra Plug.
I think makes a great set up.
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06-19-2009 04:07 PM  11 years ago
MickeyMoo

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I don't think Castle should have rated teh BEC at 10 amps, more like 5. I called them once and ask if it would work on a Raptor 50 with 9452s and a 401/9254 and they did not recommend it. I use the 3 I have on a Raptor 30 and some .40-.60 size planks. No problems so far. If you need more amps wait for the 30 amp bec they have in beta testing.
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06-19-2009 04:58 PM  11 years ago
CoronaL

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friend lost a plane using one. I won't use one after seeing his crash.Randy!!! I am the liquor
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06-19-2009 05:03 PM  11 years ago
merlin3

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i tried two brand new ones in two different applications and both gave me problems and almost lost the heli both tims, i would stay away from them.Justin - Team Horizon, Team Byron
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06-19-2009 07:50 PM  11 years ago
Jag72

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CC BEC=POS!
I lost my Beam in the dirt on the 5th or 6th flight due to a POS CC bec...

I would get something else ...but that's just me...I know there are a lot of people who had great luck...but I cannot say the same..

I will never buy one or even bother flying one again...that's for sure...
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