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06-15-2009 06:53 AM  11 years ago
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de Havilland Beaver Plane Crash at Lake Hood (HD)

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Beaver crash
To hover is divine, the alternative is rather PLANE.
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06-15-2009 07:05 AM  11 years ago
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I'm no expert in analyzing plane crashes or anything, but to me that looks like the pilot had to take a chance at:
  • Smash into the bank and bust my plane all up for sure, or
  • Try and get up now, risk stalling out, but that should at least be better than crashing into the bank
Unfortunate for all involved, but spectacular to have that footage on tape.
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06-15-2009 09:32 AM  11 years ago
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Variable Pitch Prop Adjustement

maybe a failure in manifold pressure for variable pitch; that plane sounds on high pitch (as for cruise) when you need short pich for take off
you can also hear a drop in RPM's at 0.25''

either or that plane might have been to heavy
VT "slow&low"
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06-15-2009 09:51 AM  11 years ago
Dood

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Here's the plane that crashed:

N915RC

I looked up "Lake Hood Alaska", I learned it's the world's busiest seaplane base.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Hood_Seaplane_Base

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06-15-2009 09:58 AM  11 years ago
comet

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nice pictures Dood!
it's really a shame what happened...

anyways, here's one with less wrecking:

Watch at YouTube

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06-15-2009 09:59 AM  11 years ago
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That Beaver should have been in the air halfway across that lake. There is no increase of the floats out of the water which indicates insufficient power or way over loaded. The pilot should have aborted takeoff when he realised he was in trouble.
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06-15-2009 10:06 AM  11 years ago
Dood

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I found another picture of the same plane:
http://www.michaelprophet.com/DHC2_Beaver/6.jpg

You mentioned variable prop pitch; the Beaver I played with on MS Flight sim has variable pitch.

But does this one? I can't tell. If you asked me and I had to give an answer, I'd say, "No, it does not"
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06-15-2009 10:14 AM  11 years ago
comet

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i thought Beavers had VP
yes,apparently, that one is a fixed pitch
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06-15-2009 10:17 AM  11 years ago
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But does this one? I can't tell. If you asked me and I had to give an answer, I'd say, "No, it does not"
Yes that is a constant speed (variable pitch) prop

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06-15-2009 10:35 AM  11 years ago
comet

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constant speed prop, thanks

and we have take off

Watch at YouTube

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06-15-2009 11:45 AM  11 years ago
GimbalFan (RIP)

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If you asked me and I had to give an answer, I'd say, "No, it does not"
Looking closely at the AoA of the prop at the tips on this Beaver, it's clearly VP. They appear to be at minimum pitch, too low even for a take-off setting.

Do Beavers have negative pitch available for maneuvering on water?

Croikey! That bird weighs less empty than my Jeep!

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06-15-2009 11:59 AM  11 years ago
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Here is a nice clear picture of the prop. I can see now that it's a VP

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06-15-2009 12:01 PM  11 years ago
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Bwahahahahaha!
that plane sounds on high pitch (as for cruise) when you need short pich for take off
Agreed. Even if he had a mechanical failure of his pitch control, he still had plenty of time to abort. Talk about a dumb-thumb.

I'll bet that pilot feels like a first class bonehead right about now.
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06-15-2009 05:13 PM  11 years ago
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looks like he never got the plane on step in the water.
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06-15-2009 10:23 PM  11 years ago
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The Beaver definitely uses a constant speed prop. The pilot never pushed the nose over to get the plane on the step and should have aborted way before he got to the danger zone. What a waste of a great plane. Nothing a couple hundred grand won't fix though.A good day flying is when you come home with everything in one piece
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06-18-2009 05:37 PM  11 years ago
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Weather or not it has a constant speed prop really doesn't matter. Fact is, that guy should have pulled the power and not forced it off...

We train in sea planes here at our flight school and once you pull the power back and get off plane, those floats will stop in no time. Bad decision making there! He had plenty of time to get it stopped before he hit the bank. Bummer!
Nick
If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter
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06-18-2009 08:10 PM  11 years ago
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can't remember if the spillways between Hood and Spenard are just taxiways or runways, but he wasn't lined up with them...never dropped the nose, popped it out of the water at one point and basically stalled it....pretty retarded takeoff
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