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06-07-2009 11:51 PM  9 years agoPost 1
jsenicka

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Hey all
Helping a buddy setup his T700. I fly the RCE-G600 on my 2 T700N, but I use a Futaba 12FG. Getting the governor setup for me was a pain the first time, but now have it locked.
If he wants 1800, 1900 and 1950 RPM in normal, Idle 1 and Idle 2, what is required on the x9303?

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06-08-2009 02:05 AM  9 years agoPost 2
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Plug the gyro into the "Gear" channel and set the ATV to 100% for that channel. Set a mix up for "flight mode" to Gear. Set the mix to -20 for a start in all positions. This will give you a starting point of 80% to the gyro. Adjust the amount of negative mix for each flight mode to what you want. Higher negatives will lower the headspeed.

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06-08-2009 05:35 AM  9 years agoPost 3
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Disregard the above info, that isn't anywhere close to what your looking for. Here is what you need to do.

1) Plug the yellow lead into the gear channel of course
2) go into the main setup screen where you can pick device selection
3) scroll thru the choices till you get to the gear channel, make sure it is act and keep scrolling till you get below it and push the scroll wheel until you see gov showup
4) get the instruction sheet that came with the governor
4) go back to the "list" screen and scroll down to governor
5) when you go into the gov screen pick the setting that shows you 0,1,2
6) for position 0 (normal mode)enter the percentage, roughly 71%, that the instr sheet shows for the headspeed you are wanting
7) for position 1 (idle up 1) same step as above, should be around 77%
8) for position 2 (idle up 2) same as above, should be around 80%
9) of course the heli will need to be tached for an exact setting but the perct's on the instr sheet are very very close.

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06-10-2009 01:19 AM  9 years agoPost 4
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Fastsrt is correct. I use the same setup.

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06-10-2009 02:01 AM  9 years agoPost 5
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he is dead on good job

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06-14-2009 12:45 PM  9 years agoPost 6
bowies12

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Yes, Fastsrt seems to have the easiest way to set up the governor, though the other example would probably work also.

Is there a way to use a switch to turn off the governor. Its very difficult to tune an engine with an active Governor.

I'm guessing some sort of programmable mix. I had a look and could not get it to work.

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06-14-2009 08:32 PM  9 years agoPost 7
JR-ric

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how i did it on my 9303 on my gov menu...you have set 1 2 and 3 and you set the persenctage on what rpm you want on you gov for exm.

1 70%
2 80%
3 80%

each reading is telling you a percent on the gov which give a sertin head speed

but if you you put them at 0 for exm

1 0%
2 80%
3 80%

on one the zero mean that their is no rpm set on 1 which is normal mode which means the gov is off

hope this make a little sence

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06-14-2009 09:04 PM  9 years agoPost 8
bowies12

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Thanks Freyaman for you reply. It makes perfect sense and what you have said is 100% accurate, however it has not answered my question.

I realise I can turn it off by setting it to 0%, but I want the ability to turn on and off with a switch.

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06-14-2009 10:07 PM  9 years agoPost 9
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The Governor settings on the 9303 are controlled by the flight mode switch so I believe your question was answered indirectly. Using the aforementioned processes, is, using a switch to turn the GOV on and off.

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06-14-2009 11:52 PM  9 years agoPost 10
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PC12drvr, Yes you are also technically correct. I guess I didn't ask my question very well.

Lets say I am flying in idle up with the governor on and I want to turn the governor off. I also want to stay in the same idle-up. While I am flying I could go into the programming, select governor, select the appropriate idle-up and then reduce the % to 0. By the time I have done this, the heli is now 2 foot under the ground.

My old GV-1 had a separate on/off switch to the idle-up. Its a very useful feature and I was hoping the Align Gov could do the same. Another really useful feature the GV-1 had was the calibration. the % values directly related to the head speed. eg. 60% was 1600 rpm, 75% was 1750rpm, 86% was 1860 rpm, etc. etc. No need to keep a conversion chart in your pocket, every time you want to change.

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06-15-2009 12:55 AM  9 years agoPost 11
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Yep,fastsrt nailed the setup as it is exactly what we did on a bunch of them here with the 700/9303 combination aswell as my own and it flat out F'n rocksMe likey

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06-15-2009 01:37 AM  9 years agoPost 12
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Bowies12

I am familiar with the GV1 I have a few, I think you might be out of luck, I can't think of a way to get a mix gear - gear. The 9303 will not allow for this. I guess thats the difference betwwen a $170 gov and a $65 gov, but my $65 gov works great. If you could find a way to get an aux switch to the gear channel it might work, but I could not get my radio to do it.

You could start the motor in throttle hold, which some pilots prefer anyway, use normal mode as RPM 1, ST1 as RPM 2 and ST2 duplicate to ST 1 RPM but governor off, but you would have to set a big delay on the throttle hold to avoid burning up your clutch, the catch is no quick bailouts on autos.

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06-15-2009 02:23 AM  9 years agoPost 13
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My example above lets you turn it off as you want to, with the mix switch, in any flight mode.

Jeff

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06-15-2009 03:02 AM  9 years agoPost 14
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2L time, the 9303 has automatic governor speed selection paired to the flight mode switch which is nice because it keeps it simple, and conveinient. The post was how to setup a 9303, I understand you use a RD6000, and your setup might be ideal for you, however, once you have enabled the GOV function in the 9303, the gear channel is removed as slave option for the Pmixes. If you wanted to setup a mix on aux 2 as you described it would work, but now you have to flip two switches, one for throttles curves and aux 2 for governor/head speed selection, which seems to defeat the purpose of having the GOV funtion in the 9303. When I teach my full scale students, and the new pilots at the field its all about keeping it simple so you can concentrate on the flight controls. Just my opinion. My suggestion... the governor should always be on. Hold shuts it off and normal mode shuts it off, thats all I need.

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06-30-2009 02:59 PM  9 years agoPost 15
Gator1

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Align setup with the 9303
Hi Guys,

I am using the same set up.

If you don't use the auto funtion. The rudder dual rate switch turns the gov on and off.

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06-30-2009 03:06 PM  9 years agoPost 16
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Can anyone tell me how percentage is figured? If I want to increase or decrease head speed slightly, how much should i change the percentages if I am close? Do small percentage changes make a big differance?

Thanks for the help.

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06-30-2009 03:13 PM  9 years agoPost 17
craymanus

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how about align rce-600 gov for a futaba 7c????anybody??

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06-30-2009 03:20 PM  9 years agoPost 18
craymanus

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how do u guys calibrate the gov ???in normal mode or idle1??from what i understand in the manual..in low stickpush button for 3 seconds until blinkingraise stick too high the gov turns off for a second then come back on right???is it suppose to come back on red or green??for me in normal mode low stick is red and high stick also red...is it suppose to turn green at high stick???

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06-30-2009 04:33 PM  9 years agoPost 19
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Hi Guys,

I am using the same set up.

If you don't use the auto funtion. The rudder dual rate switch turns the gov on and off.
Gator 1, how does that work? Most of the guys using this setup are using the rudder D/R to control gyro gain which is plugged into the aux 2 slot in the Rx, do you not use gyro remote gain adjustment? And if you do why would you not use the Rudder switch?
Can anyone tell me how percentage is figured? If I want to increase or decrease head speed slightly, how much should i change the percentages if I am close? Do small percentage changes make a big differance?
You have the percentages in the Trex 700 manual or Gov manual for JR or Futaba, if you need to set something in between just interpolate the given values.

Craymanus, your governor is off when red, on when green, and you should use a switch to turn the governor on and change head speeds using the gain lead. If you want it on it should go green on the bench. Check your manual there is instructions for Futaba

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07-01-2009 11:44 PM  9 years agoPost 20
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Sorry your right. Don't know what I was thinking. I use my gear switch.

I also set up a throttle cut on my gear switch in the down position. I used program #6 and mixed gear to throttle and adjusted the percent till the motor quit. Works great on the Dx7 as well.

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