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06-05-2009 07:42 AM  9 years agoPost 21
Chucky777

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Crashing Defined
1. If you have to go to the spare part box to replace parts.

2. If at an event and there a vendor who keep your credit card on file.

3. When all your buddies gather around to check out the carnage.

4. When you have to go home because you also crashed your back up heli. (That why I carry 6 helis with me)

5. Creighton "Crasher" Carr.

Charlie

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06-05-2009 07:54 AM  9 years agoPost 22
RappyTappy

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When the helicopter cannot fly. That's what I consider a crash.
Yep, thats my definition as well.

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06-05-2009 09:24 AM  9 years agoPost 23
w.pasman

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IMHO hitting ground is not required to "crash"
and "cannot fly" is not enough, I mean when I take the engine out that's not crashing. Also when the fuel runs out or battery goes flat, that is not crashing either. If I deliberately shoot my heli down, I would not call that crashing either. Furthermore if one of the bolts holding your landing gear would pop off, but you do not even notice it, I would not consider that crashing. Losing control of the heli itself is not the crashing, crashing is about the structural failure. How about

crash = unintended and instant structural failure causing loss of control

with structural failure I mean parts coming off and breaking.
loss of control may be partial. So if you have a midair boomstrike and do a succesfull auto, this definition would still make that a crash.

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06-05-2009 04:17 PM  9 years agoPost 24
VooDooX

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every flight is a controlled crash

Velocity 50 "99.9999999999999% of an atom is empty space." also 01001000 01001001

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06-05-2009 04:29 PM  9 years agoPost 25
McKrackin

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IMHO hitting ground is not required to "crash"
and "cannot fly" is not enough, I mean when I take the engine out that's not crashing. Also when the fuel runs out or battery goes flat, that is not crashing either. If I deliberately shoot my heli down, I would not call that crashing either. Furthermore if one of the bolts holding your landing gear would pop off, but you do not even notice it, I would not consider that crashing. Losing control of the heli itself is not the crashing, crashing is about the structural failure. How about

crash = unintended and instant structural failure causing loss of control

with structural failure I mean parts coming off and breaking.
loss of control may be partial. So if you have a midair boomstrike and do a succesfull auto, this definition would still make that a crash.
#1.I think you completely missed the point of this thread.Jeez,lighten up.lol...

#2.Your little paragraph there makes very little sense to me.It contradicts itself.Sort of...Mechanical failure is not a crash???
Structural failure is a crash???
Splitting hairs I think.

The part about "If it won't fly".....I think he means if it hits the ground hard enough that it will no longer fly.I seriously doubt he thinks a dead battery or empty fuel cell is a crash.lmao...

I literally never use the word literally right.

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06-05-2009 04:44 PM  9 years agoPost 26
LaurenceGough

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Any time when the skids don't touch the ground first. Well, not including little auto scrapes.

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06-05-2009 05:10 PM  9 years agoPost 27
RCHSF

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When you go out side with your heli in one peice, and bring it back inside in a buket its a crash.

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06-05-2009 05:13 PM  9 years agoPost 28
GyroFreak

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Any sudden unplanned or unexpected contact with terra-firma.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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06-05-2009 05:21 PM  9 years agoPost 29
VooDooX

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you might have crashed if theres a hole in the ground where your heli used to be

Velocity 50 "99.9999999999999% of an atom is empty space." also 01001000 01001001

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06-05-2009 05:27 PM  9 years agoPost 30
Wyorcflyer

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If you can't fix it with duct tape, it may be a crash!

Jack

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06-05-2009 07:40 PM  9 years agoPost 31
w.pasman

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I think you completely missed the point of this thread.Jeez,lighten up.lol...
I have seen dead serious threads on what's a crash and was taking his question serious yes. I don't mind funny answers though

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06-05-2009 07:42 PM  9 years agoPost 32
w.pasman

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Mechanical failure is not a crash???
Yes, following my proposal, if it's not causing loss of control it's not a crash. For instance if your auto-retract gear fails (mechanical failure) I would not call that a "crash"

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06-05-2009 07:48 PM  9 years agoPost 33
McKrackin

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In my opinion,if you don't know if it's a crash or not....It's not!

I literally never use the word literally right.

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06-05-2009 08:27 PM  9 years agoPost 34
bwellmaker

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Long Island

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A helicopter crash will be defined as follows:

"When you run out of Nr, altitude, and ideas all at the same time".

Butch

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06-05-2009 08:33 PM  9 years agoPost 35
Big Fil

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Santa Rosa, CA

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"Any sudden unplanned or unexpected contact with terra-firma."

This is the best definition i've seen in the whole thread. Saying if it's not damaged or flyable and not calling it a crash doesn't really fit IMO. Look how many people slam their MCX's into the wall and have it quickly flounder to the ground. Sure, most of the time you pick em back up and fly away but if your telling me it wasn't a crash i'd

Just because you botched an auto and tipped it over in the grass and were lucky enough to have no damage, it's still a crash. Maybe a crash with no damage, but a crash none the less.

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06-05-2009 10:20 PM  9 years agoPost 36
McKrackin

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I don't think I like that one Fillmoe.
By your definition my whole life,not limited to helis,has been and will continue to be one big long drawn out crash.
Not every learning incident is a crash IMO.Only the ones you can't walk away from unscathed

I literally never use the word literally right.

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06-05-2009 10:21 PM  9 years agoPost 37
gian

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AZ

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I'm now going with:
"Any unintended impact."

Though, I guess you could crash intentionaly- but there should be no question there whether it's a crash or not.

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06-05-2009 11:35 PM  9 years agoPost 38
Sam2b

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Tacoma, WA

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When something makes that crunchy-crunchy noise, it's likely to be a crasheroo. Kinda like when I jam my pinky toe on my bed post. Oh the pain...

_Sam B_

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06-06-2009 01:08 AM  9 years agoPost 39
helidevil

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Kinda like when I jam my pinky toe on my bed post. Oh the pain...
"now dats fun-ey ri'der!"

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