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06-04-2009 06:21 PM  9 years agoPost 61
Professor Fate

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Goose Creek S.C.

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Do people think anymore? That's almost as bad as charging a LiPo in the front seat of your car and then think the auto manufacturer is responsible for your loss.

Welcome my son, Welcome to the machine

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06-04-2009 06:49 PM  9 years agoPost 62
Tyler

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Chicagoland area

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Apparently, Tyler was the "experienced pilot".
Tyler is an experienced pilot, but Tyler is also human. Tyler also knows how stupid humans get when money is involved. I do believe that the root of all evil is the love of money. If money was not involved here, there would not be a discussion.

Tyler has drawn from his vast experiences in this hobby. One thing for certain is that there is no certainty! Therefore, I am very clear of the guidlines before I take someones transmitter.

I have my set of rules and I stick to them. I try not to assume anything.

There are still way too many assumptions here, folks.

However, I am the guy that watched my neighbor close my garage door on my van and cause $1500 worth of damage when he came over to pick peaches off of my fruit tree. I honestly explained what happened to my insurance company. They said make a claim, but I didn't want to face the raised previums and strike against my account. I paid out of pocket for the damages. I shared my delicious fruit and it cost me $1500. I never let my friend know how much it cost me, either.

Tyler

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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06-04-2009 07:02 PM  9 years agoPost 63
VooDooX

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pilot responsible its pretty unanimous sorry tyler but i would just not fly anyone elses heli anymore

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06-04-2009 07:32 PM  9 years agoPost 64
Flying Brian

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I would say he didn't do a very good job of checking things out range checking or most likely flying (MY VOTE)
This is freaking funny and to top it off every one agrees that has to be a first.
DITTO!!!

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06-04-2009 07:56 PM  9 years agoPost 65
Skarn

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Pasadena, MD

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Tyler, I will agree with you that there are many unknowns.

But one would think that before a heli got anywhere near a vehicle or away from the flight line, he'd hit throttle hold or land immediately....

Even if the heli did loose complete control and there was nothing the experienced pilot could do, if it were me, I'd still take the hit and pay for my own truck!

Skarn

It's better to burn out than to fade away...

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06-04-2009 08:34 PM  9 years agoPost 66
Sam2b

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Tacoma, WA

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My two cents:
If the model owner allows another person to fly their model:
1) The owner should know if the other person can afford to fix it or replace it.
2) The owner should have a pre-flight discussion about if the heli crashes for what ever reason, and agree on responsibility before the flight.

If another person asks to fly the owner's model:
1) If the other person can't afford to fix or replace the heli, don't ask!
2) If no discussion about liability happens before the flight, the non-owner assumes the risk of paying for the damaged goods.
3) He/she should know what they are getting themselves into. Money changes everything, and can completely devastate relationships of all kinds. We're not talking about a Pico Z or an mCX.

As for the other questions and scenarios in the first post, it looks like it is costing both parties allot of money. Maybe agree upon it being a wash?

_Sam B_

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06-04-2009 08:48 PM  9 years agoPost 67
mlucia

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Money changes everything, and can completely devastate relationships of all kinds
Unfortunately this is true and is proven time and time again.

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06-04-2009 08:58 PM  9 years agoPost 68
QuantumPSI

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subscribed...

Yeah, there are a bunch of questions unanswered, but I still say no...

This is good! Where can I get that popcorn smiley?

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part

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06-04-2009 09:05 PM  9 years agoPost 69
Jeff polisena

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You fly , You buy

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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06-04-2009 09:12 PM  9 years agoPost 70
what_the_helli

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06-04-2009 10:12 PM  9 years agoPost 71
A. Bundy

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Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

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What if the experienced pilot was asked to check and test fly the heli and he crashed into the owner's truck ?
Who would be responsible for the damage to the truck ?
Hamo
Still the pilot........BTW newbies,this is why guys who have been around awhile are not always chomping at the bit to help with stuff.I have to trust myself not missing a new guys set up error,and if I do not catch a mistake I'm an ahole who owes everybody hundreds of $$$. When I do stuff,I have a disclaimer speech that sounds like a tour guide is saying it for the 1 gajillionth time.

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06-04-2009 11:37 PM  9 years agoPost 72
whirlyspud

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USA

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When someone asks me to fly their machine I tell them flat out that they are asking because they know I can fly, and that if I crash it because something fails, breaks, comes loose, dies, etc, I will not pay for it. If they agree, then I fly, if they don't, they can find someome else to help them.
Granted, If I were to dumb thumb it I would pay. Has never happened so far because when I fly someone else's machine I do the basics, and that is it. I don't mind helping someone with setup, but I have no desire to fly other pilots machines. I learned this one long ago. I was flying a friends xcell, and the tail started to go. I was able to land ok. After landing, we looked over the machine, and found that when he built it, he had failed to rough up the inside of the tail pushrod where the threaded rod was glued in. There was a nice clean blob of jb weld that was just as smooth as a baby's ass. Had I crashed my friend would have no doubt been pissed, but the cause would have been his fault. Not worth the headache. Even looking a machine over real well will not always show the stupid things that people can do.

Mike

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06-04-2009 11:55 PM  9 years agoPost 73
erict

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Ct

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Both parties are members on this forum...

I think that the truck owner should take away from this post and the many responses; that he is wrong for asking for damages to his truck and should admit as such. Hell maybe he should replace the Protos he busted.

I think the jury would agree with that.

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06-04-2009 11:59 PM  9 years agoPost 74
max232

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Pensacola

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Do you guys think this kind of thing will adversly affect people helping other newbs out? i know it has made me think about it.
i dont mind helping out, but why put yourself in a position that could
turn bad. Just a thought, what if instead of the truck he had caused
great bodily harm?

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06-05-2009 12:06 AM  9 years agoPost 75
RotorTech321

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Scranton, PA. USA

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Dosent mean crap where he had the truck parked! The answer is NO!

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06-05-2009 12:13 AM  9 years agoPost 76
Leif

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USA

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Both parties are members on this forum...

I think that the truck owner should take away from this post and the many responses; that he is wrong for asking for damages to his truck and should admit as such. Hell maybe he should replace the Protos he busted.

I think the jury would agree with that.
I think you should suck it up and fix your own Protos.. and this truck owner (aka "Tyler" ) should pay for the repairs to his truck or get insurance to pay for the truck damages.

On another note based on a previous Tyler post, if you don't file an insurance claim for fear that the rates will go up, then what the heck do you pay insurance premiums for? The truck owner shouldn't be bashful about filing an insurance claim under the comprehensive policy. That is NOT typically tied to rates the way collision is. Even collision typically only impacts your rates if you were at fault.

Leif

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06-05-2009 12:17 AM  9 years agoPost 77
lstmysock11

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Middletown, CT

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If you fly someone elses bird things should be said ahead of time who is responsable for what if something happens.

The bird should be given a indepth pre flight check including a distance check on the radio.

The bird if unproven should be tested as far away from other people and property. This way if radio control should be lost there is less of a chance for the heli to crash into a car, truck or a person.

Honestly I do not see this happening very often and hopefully we can keep it that way.

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06-05-2009 12:19 AM  9 years agoPost 78
A. Bundy

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Hell maybe he should replace the Protos he busted.

I think the jury would agree with that.
No.Fix your own heli.

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06-05-2009 12:30 AM  9 years agoPost 79
seattle_helo

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Seattle, WA USA

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So does my friend owe the experienced pilot for the damage to the truck?
Absolutely not.

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06-05-2009 12:30 AM  9 years agoPost 80
Jeff polisena

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westpalmbeachflorida usa

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I have resorted to only telling newbies what they could try that might/will cure the issues they are having . I find that if you do all the work for them they dont retain info and you always work on their heli and if something does go wrong you spend your money on their heli .Most of the guys I help if something does go wrong they always offer to pay for parts . I just feel better if I crash it I should repair it .I do have to add that when I started flying 15 yrs ago I thought heli guys have attitudes and did not understand . I do understand now they didn't have attitudes it is just that when they came to field they needed to test fly heli after a crash or tweaking and needed to concentrate and getting rushed buy questions breaks that focus .But some do

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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