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06-04-2009 05:22 AM  9 years agoPost 21
JJMAN (RIP)

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Chesapeake, Virginia - USA

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No.

I sentence the experienced pilot to 6 months of intensive common sense training and 3 months of supervised in house only simulator training.

JAY HIGGS

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06-04-2009 05:35 AM  9 years agoPost 22
Philicopter

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Saint Anne (Kankakee) ,IL

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This wasn't an accident this was poor judgment. Both parties are responsible for the own loss to their own property and should follow up with the appropriate insurance policies for any recoverable expense

DONE

Phil

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06-04-2009 06:14 AM  9 years agoPost 23
whoamis

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san francisco, ca

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That one was too easy.

How about this one: The experienced heli pilot flies it into a 3rd party's truck, and the truck was parked legally and a conventional distance away from the flying area.

Now who pays for the truck?

I asked somebody to fly my heli and said, "If there's a crash, I'll eat the cost of the heli, and you eat the cost of collateral damage." But that doesn't make it fair... :-)

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06-04-2009 06:17 AM  9 years agoPost 24
DKNguyen

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Pshh, no. THat's retarded.

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06-04-2009 06:18 AM  9 years agoPost 25
ch-47c

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san jose, ca

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The heli owner shouldn't expect anything from the experienced pilot and he should not pay anything to the experienced pilot. Even if the experienced pilot gets mad, or a freindship dissolves, so be it. The experienced pilot has an element of responsibility here too. He chose to fly it. It isn't like he was being a Good Samaritan.

The experienced pilot shouldn't expect anything from the model owner. When someone asks me to test fly their heli, I do only if I'm not responsible to repair/replace the heli only. If something else happens regardless, I take responsbility.
AMA insurance is “excess” to any other applicable coverage, such as homeowner’s.
Like dkshema said it is secondary. Most AMA members don't understand this line.

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06-04-2009 06:27 AM  9 years agoPost 26
Sonic88

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Murfreesboro, TN

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Unbelievable! What an asshole. He crashed your heli into his truck. Not knowing all of the circumstances it is hard to say, but if he was hotdogging around he should pay for the model AND his truck. If he is such an "experienced" pilot he should have checked the model over before flying it. I wouldnt make him pay if the model screwed up and caused the crash, but man what a jerk!

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06-04-2009 06:34 AM  9 years agoPost 27
30636086

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Tacoma, WA

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Our local rule of thumb is this:

If you ask me to fly your heli, the owner holds all financial responsibility.
If I ask to fly your toy, I hold all financial responsibility.
Same over here!

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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06-04-2009 06:35 AM  9 years agoPost 28
Mputu

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Killeen, TX

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If the experienced Pilot was asked to fly this can be seen different and the Heli owner should pay for everything. UMmmmMM.... The experience Pilot should know better, I don't think he was forced to fly some one's else machine. In this case they both lost.. One has heli to fix and the other the car.

Fly hard, Land safe

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06-04-2009 06:35 AM  9 years agoPost 29
ch-47c

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san jose, ca

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Dark side of the moon.
There is no dark side of the moon, as a matter of fact it's all dark.

I've never crashed anothers heli. I don't take chances, because it is his pride and joy. If he says do this or that manuever because he wants to see if it will do it. Okay. But I don't do it anywhere near where a truck is parked.

Don't pay..................

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06-04-2009 06:40 AM  9 years agoPost 30
twitch

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This experienced pilot doesnt sound very experienced

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06-04-2009 07:47 AM  9 years agoPost 31
w.pasman

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IMHO they should handle it the same as if he crashed into someone else's truck. Who would be responsible for the damage to the truck in that case?

I suppose the heli owner *asked* for a test flight hence he seems responsible for the damage to his heli (following Dave's list above and assuming they both agreed on that).

Damage to the truck is harder. I would say if it is mechanical failure and the test flyer did a thorough checkup before flight, then they both are to "blame" partly. If the test flyer was neglecting something or flying irresponsible he probably is to blame.

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06-04-2009 08:02 AM  9 years agoPost 32
twitch

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Well, If the person who flew it didnt say any stipulations or agreements before hand then its his own fault. Its not the kids fault who asked for help, hes not the one who crashed it.
The idoit crashed into his own truck for crying out loud LMAO!

New set of blades- $69
Fresh gallon of Nitro- $29
Lunch on the way to the field- $7.96
Showing off your skills and smashing into your own truck- Priceless!

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06-04-2009 08:43 AM  9 years agoPost 33
myaces

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North Bend, Wa

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Remember! If your flying someone else's helicopter never fly it into your own vehicle!
If something goes wrong, fly it into his vehicle!
I'm taking notes, that's a good one!

I'm prepared to sentence the experienced pilot to 160 hours of community service and a radio tracking ankle bracelet to warn others when he is getting close to a flying field.

~Team Collective Mayhem

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06-04-2009 09:40 AM  9 years agoPost 34
ch-47c

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Showing off your skills and smashing into your own truck- Priceless!
LOL

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06-04-2009 11:45 AM  9 years agoPost 35
1WOLFS1

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NO, I would not pay. matter of fact, as soon as the experience pilot ,asked for money for the truck, i would have asked. oh sure and i bet you want me to pay for the hospital, then i would break his nose.
this mother fer, is stupid.( community service,is worth teaching stupid, how to act. )
WOLF

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06-04-2009 11:49 AM  9 years agoPost 36
BarracudaHockey

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Jacksonville FL

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The AMA sanctions clubs (the business entity), and sanctions events, they DO NOT sanction fields.

Your insurance is good anywhere you're flying in accordance with the safety code.

Andy
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06-04-2009 12:30 PM  9 years agoPost 37
Eric Giorgianto

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New Jersey

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Experienced Crasher!!!!!!!!!
What a Numbnuts this experienced pilot is expecting the newbie heli owner to pay for his truck.Although this is a great idea! I have a large scratch on the side of my car, and I am a flight instructor at my field.The next time I do a maiden flight on some newbies airplane I will make sure to crash it into my car right where the scratch is and this way I can get the newbie to fix my car so I can avoid the claim and the deductible costs. This Putz should be sentenced to 3 years in the electric chair.While taking common sense courses and wearing a tracking bracelet. Obviously this guy is experienced in bad judgment. I agree they should each pay for their own damages.

Eric G.

BTW I will be changing my policy on test flying aircraft for newbies.

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06-04-2009 12:39 PM  9 years agoPost 38
Yug

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Sounds like the sort of thing Banana Skin would do

Vegetable rights and Peace

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06-04-2009 12:48 PM  9 years agoPost 39
Hamo

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Ireland

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What if the experienced pilot was asked to check and test fly the heli and he crashed into the owner's truck ?
Who would be responsible for the damage to the truck ?
Hamo

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06-04-2009 01:02 PM  9 years agoPost 40
T-Rex-Flyer

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Panama City, Fl

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Short answer is No Way, But I would still like to know if the crash was due to a problem with the setup, mechanical failure or just plain dumb thumbs. If it was dumb thumbs the experienced pilots owes you're friend at least part of the repair costs for being stupid.

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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