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06-04-2009 01:26 AM  9 years agoPost 1
Aaron29

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Has anyone tried this combo? If you took say an Evo 90 and put the Turbulence head/tail on it, how do you think it would stack up?

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06-04-2009 01:56 AM  9 years agoPost 2
payne1967

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the freya won the masters in 2007 like that didn't it?
you may not be able to fly as well as dominik but you can get the freya close to his one

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06-04-2009 02:35 AM  9 years agoPost 3
Alpine

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Is the Tail feel that much different ?

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06-04-2009 02:40 AM  9 years agoPost 4
2kwik2c

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Turbulence head and tail on a Freya?

Has anyone tried this combo? If you took say an Evo 90 and put the Turbulence head/tail on it, how do you think it would stack up?
It is safe to say that the Turbulence D3 was developed from the Freya EVO 90 platform that Domink Heagele flown and won back in the 2007 3D Masters. As a matter of fact the Freya EVO 90 is the base pillar for the development of the D3 with of course Dominik's input incorporated in its design. So therefore I can say that the Freya EVO 90 with the SSZ-IV head and D3 tail rotor can stack up. Many of the parts that's in the D3 can be backward compatibility with any Freya series not just the EVO 90.

As Payne1967 have mentioned pilot's skill and ability to fly the helicopter can also be a contributing factor in the heli's performance. That's like saying you bought an F1 car, but that does not mean you can drive like Mario Andretti or Michael Schumacher.

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06-04-2009 04:59 PM  9 years agoPost 5
John Benario

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The head will fit fine, there is no reason to spend the money on the new tail. The difference between the old tail and new tail is the new tail hub has 5 mm spindles. Since there is no history of failure with the orginal Hirobo tail parts nothing would be gained by spending the money on new tail parts.

I think Hirobo was succumbing to marketing with the new tail. There was no issue with the old tail.

The head is a different matter. Best head in the world.

John Benario

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06-04-2009 05:00 PM  9 years agoPost 6
John Benario

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Is this Aaron whom I helped in Mandeville some years back?

John Benario

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06-05-2009 02:43 AM  9 years agoPost 7
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Is this Aaron whom I helped in Mandeville some years back?
I'm afraid not.

The reason I ask about the head and tail...

I watched the Dominik videos of the 2007 and 2008, and I saw a difference in the tail.

Check out his piro reversals with the Evo. Then watch him do the same thing with a D3. The D3 piro reversal looks very sharp, as though it has more tail authority.

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06-05-2009 04:24 AM  9 years agoPost 8
tadawson

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He may just be running a different counter gear to speed up the tail - I don't think the tail box assembly would make that much difference. I think some guys run the Sceadu counter gear to run the tail faster, but my memory is a bit vague on the specific of that changeout . . .

- Tim

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06-06-2009 02:25 AM  9 years agoPost 9
Agilefalcon

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I'm flying an X-Spec with CCPM conversion and a SSR-IV (Turbulence) head.

What a fantastic machine! If you would like Turbulence like performance and you already own an Evo or X-Spec, MRC have complete head conversions that include washout and control rods.

I didn't do this all at once. I picked up an X-Spec on Ebay for a couple of hundred dollars and just set about modifying it.

But, I must say that the engineering on the Turbulence is great so it was totally necessary to get one in the end.

Chris Berardi
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06-06-2009 03:53 AM  9 years agoPost 10
2kwik2c

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The reason I ask about the head and tail...

I watched the Dominik videos of the 2007 and 2008, and I saw a difference in the tail.

Check out his piro reversals with the Evo. Then watch him do the same thing with a D3. The D3 piro reversal looks very sharp, as though it has more tail authority.
I'm no techinical, mechanical engineer and all, but there are several factors for their difference.

Dominik's 2007 Freya EVO still utilizes the stock EVO tail rotor unit.
Dominik's 2008 XFC prototype D3 utilizes the EXII tail case and the new D3 tail blage grips.
Dominik's 2008 3D Master's D3 Turbulence is the 2nd prototype (almost production model) which have the Freya tail case and D3 tail balde grips.

Gyro settings can also be a factor in the piro. May be his settings where different from the 2007 Freya EVO and 2008 D3.

Basically it all comes down to this. Freya EVO 90 with the D3 SSZ-IV head unit and D3 tail unit and set up properly CAN stack up to the D3.

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06-06-2009 10:13 AM  9 years agoPost 11
Brendan78

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Hi Aaron,

Just change the head to the Turbulence head and you'll be fine, you'll have a killer, reliable, machine on your hands. I've flown my Freya Evo with the SSZ-4 since the MRC deal on the head came out and the
Heli turns into a different machine(I had the CCPM conversion, EX-auto hub,
8.25gearing). The Freya Evo tail is very powerfull in stock form so you don't need to touch it. I just bought a D3 because I was so impressed with my SSZ-4/Freya Evo combo.

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06-07-2009 03:32 AM  9 years agoPost 12
Aaron29

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Next question: any idea if they are going to make an FFZ-IV?

(i.e. plastic version?)

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06-07-2009 04:38 AM  9 years agoPost 13
Jafa

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Aaron, your Freya has YS-61 ST2 engine?
I really can't see the point in putting a top notch 3D head
on a 60 which has the lowest power to weight ratio of all classes


Protos | Logo 400 & 500 | Sceadu Evo | Freya Evo | Trex600N | Avant FX

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06-07-2009 10:54 AM  9 years agoPost 14
Brendan78

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Hi Aaron,

The SDX head is basically a plastic SSZ-4. I would change the engine to the 91 as well.

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06-07-2009 02:14 PM  9 years agoPost 15
Aaron29

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Would the SDX head be up to pulling an Evo 90 around?

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06-07-2009 02:51 PM  9 years agoPost 16
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Hmmm well it does have an 8mm spindle! The bladegrips only have 4mm blade bolts though. What you could do is use the Grips from the D3 on the SDX head! The spinle is the same part number for both heads, so it should fit!

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06-07-2009 03:13 PM  9 years agoPost 17
Aaron29

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If I were to do it, I'd want the metal headblock. And with having to run the grips too then it is practically the whole head.

Was just wondering. The SDX isn't up to it because the grips are too small.

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06-07-2009 03:14 PM  9 years agoPost 18
Aaron29

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Any idea if they are going to make an FFZ-IV?

(i.e. plastic version?)

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06-07-2009 03:27 PM  9 years agoPost 19
Quickster

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Not sure.

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