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06-03-2009 03:32 AM  9 years agoPost 41
RCHSF

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Lipos can be dangerous.

But they are just as good a chance that the little wire that go's into your Vehicle fule tank that makes your gas hand work will short out, and cause your vehicle to explode while driveing to work.

Very slim chance but just as possible, just like lipo fires, very far, and few between.

O' yeah and the electric fule pump in the tank can cause sparks as well, take an old used one spay some WD40 in it, and put it to a car battery, and watch flames shoot out of it. It will I have done it.

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06-03-2009 03:45 AM  9 years agoPost 42
Spitfire1

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Lets not forget the extent of that fire in those photographs is a result of numerous ignited combustables, Gasoline fuel being the most prevelant.
The lipo started a small fire which then led to a huge one, a cigerette accidentily dropped onto a car seat could easily lead to the same result.

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06-03-2009 03:53 AM  9 years agoPost 43
Terrabit

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Dude! Nix one car payment!

I cary four to six 10s 4200's in a brief case. Imagine what I could do with that.

Just like plenty of other things we take for granted in everyday life, lipos warrant respect. I've ridden a motorcycle at over 160mph, climbed thousands of feet of vertical rock and ice - with and without ropes, handled explosives, fired a variety guns, brawled with complete strangers, consumed large quantities of "illicit substances", etc - all for the sake of a good time. And I've suffered some consequences.

That certainly doesn't mean I ain't gonna do it again.

Peace out!

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06-03-2009 03:58 AM  9 years agoPost 44
Maverick3n1

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I found the news story.

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbc.../NEWS/905300321

At first I was confused as the original poster was in San Diego, CA, but just re-read and realized his buddy sent it to him =P

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06-03-2009 04:19 AM  9 years agoPost 45
Terrabit

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Wow, this is really unfortunate. I can't imagine insurance is going to cover all the necessary modifications to make a replacement vehicle driveable for this fellow hobbyist. If a charitable fund comes to be, please post a link. I would like to make a small contribution. This is a community, our community. And that's what community does.

Keep us posted.

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06-03-2009 04:25 AM  9 years agoPost 46
Maverick3n1

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Does vehicle insurance even cover car fires like that? And no offense to the guy who lost his vehicle, but knowing that lithiums could potentially be dangerous, why would you charge them on a very flamable surface (a passenger seat, in which I'd assume to be cloth) rather than on something like say the metal wheelchair lift ramp, or something along those lines. I know some people like to use their car batteries as a charger power source, and plug into their cigarette lighters, but they make portable PB batteries purposely so you don't have to do that.

If you absolutely refuse to get a portable battery and want to use your car battery, at least get some form of extension cord so you can locate the charger and batteries remotely..

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06-03-2009 04:32 AM  9 years agoPost 47
Terrabit

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At this point, I'd think a little compassion would be in order. This 59 year old paraplegic has just had a very bad day.

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06-03-2009 04:44 AM  9 years agoPost 48
myaces

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That's scary but a good warning to those not using a lipo sack or something like that. Myself included as I've got two of em charging on the workbench right now, in just a minute they will be in my ceramic charging pot.

It would be good to know any specifics available like how many cycles the batteries had on them and what type of charger and such.

~Team Collective Mayhem

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06-03-2009 05:37 AM  9 years agoPost 49
zaw

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That's crazy. I wonder what kind of battery/charge was used.

At least the newspaper article didn't refer as Toy Planes.

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06-03-2009 05:51 AM  9 years agoPost 50
Maverick3n1

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Terrabit, you're right, that came off a bit harsh. His loss sucks, paraplegic or not, nobody should have to suffer a loss like that. Especially considering the fact that while it wasn't a bright idea to charge them on his seat, it doesn't change the fact that they ignited due to a defect in the battery, or the charger, and not due to negligence (I'm assuming, as it doesn't sound like this is his first battery he's ever charged). I hope he can re-coup his losses, and that his losses don't make him give up on the hobby.

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06-03-2009 05:53 AM  9 years agoPost 51
Seablade

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I looked over at my car and theirs was
flames coming out of the passenger front window. And then
all hell broke out. The three lipo batteries in the front
seat began to explode, then the car battery exploded
What went first - the charger or the batteries? Sounds like the batteries went off because of something else and not the batteries themselves. Did the charger have a fault, where's CSI RC?

Or maybe there was one battery on charge and 3 sitting waiting to be charged?

"Vini, Vidi, Velcro"

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06-03-2009 06:04 AM  9 years agoPost 52
Terrabit

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It's all good my brutha. Who among us hasn't made a supremely bad decision at some point? The way we recover from mistakes is a far better measure of character than whether we make them to begin with.

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06-03-2009 06:30 AM  9 years agoPost 53
Eco8gator

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He said already why this happened.

It wasnt the packs.

It wasnt the charger.

It was his fault.

It says on every piece of equipment we use to keep an eye on the packs while charging.

Im not bashing the guy and I am sorry for his loss. What I am saying is Lipos are only dangerous when used incorrectly...this is a good example. Its like smoking a cig. while fueling up your car or pouring gas into the mower...

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06-03-2009 09:06 AM  9 years agoPost 54
OICU812

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+1 with what Eco8gator says,

It's like they always say guns are not dangerous, it's the people that own them,,, same gig. Use common sense and practice a safe routine in your hobby and all will be perfectly fine.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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06-03-2009 09:15 AM  9 years agoPost 55
Dood

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So what else was in the car to make it burn like that?
You can bet the seats are foam padded (as with most modern cars), so those will burn quickly, acting as a kindling.

Nearly the entire interior is some sort of plastic, hence the black smoke.

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06-03-2009 09:16 AM  9 years agoPost 56
dogg5306

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That's frightening...
As it would mean that you need to be at all time next to your lipos while they're charging... which is somewhat disturbing for someone that does have to charge several of them in a row...

That's the reason why I've decided to get a temperature sensor for my charger... I know that it won't stop the chemical reaction once it's started but that's better than nothing...

A friend of mine has been using one of those lipo bags... it didn't help at all when its 6s ignite by itself while charging!!!

There should be a logical explanation otherwise those things (lipos) wouldn't be allowed (at all!!!)

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06-03-2009 12:10 PM  9 years agoPost 57
Seablade

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edited out because it just wasn't worth the time to reply...

"Vini, Vidi, Velcro"

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06-03-2009 12:32 PM  9 years agoPost 58
Gorgin4325

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Hi guys,

That is sad. I'm glad no one was hurt... and I hope your insurance company helps you out.

Three days ago I went to the airfield and wanted to fly my MSH Protos for the first time, and I took a little fire extinguisher with me and placed it next to me when I flew. It was just in case the ESC started a fire or something (I'm fairly new when it comes to electric helis)... I never charge batteries in my car. Anyways, I could see/hear a few people pointing at my fire extinguisher and laughing at me and finding it funny that I had it sitting next to me... I hope they see this thread or similar ones... I know the chances of a heli catching fire are slim, but they do occasionally happen.

There is nothing wrong with being a little extra careful...

The little fire extinguisher cost me around $17 from my local hardware store, and its the size of a small water bottle... Its not a bad thing to have around when you go and fly. Nitro or electric, it doesn't matter...

Regards,
G

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06-03-2009 01:40 PM  9 years agoPost 59
BarracudaHockey

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We had this a few weeks ago so it's not like it can't happen, and if it had been in or attached to his car we probably would have had an even bigger problem, it was licking the roof of the pits as it was.

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06-03-2009 02:12 PM  9 years agoPost 60
lloyd

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Heres my experiment with a lipo....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21IySOMmFU4

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