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06-02-2009 03:54 PM  9 years agoPost 1
oatac126

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I want to buy my first nitro heli
which one is better
I really want to buy a nitri heli
Help me choose
sdx or vibe50

sorry if I spell some thing wrong because my english is not good

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06-02-2009 04:10 PM  9 years agoPost 2
topspindok

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no doubts. sdx all the way. It cheaper and part are also cheaper. You need no upgrades as you progress.

dale

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06-02-2009 05:31 PM  9 years agoPost 3
Andy from Sandy

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At the expense of being blasted to bits, there is or has been a problem on the Vibe 50 tail end somewhere. Some have had real bad vibration problems. Of course you wont get anything out of JR. A guy in my club has a Vibe 50. There was a second but he sold his because of a strange noise coming from the tail end that he couldn't cure. The other one got alot of help from JR to fix the fault. It is better but not fully cured.

Bottom line is that of all the helicopters I have come across in the 3 years of "playing" with helis the SDX looks to be the first to have nothing wrong on its release.

Get the SDX.

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06-02-2009 05:42 PM  9 years agoPost 4
rudyy

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You can ask rexxpilot for comments. I think he flew both Vibe50 and SDX.

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06-03-2009 01:50 AM  9 years agoPost 5
Aaron29

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RANT INCOMING...
Ask the same question in the JR column and you'll hear how the JR Vibe is superior. These answers will include things like "the Vibe is G-10 which is way better than cheap plastic." and "the JR is higher quality."

What they WON'T do is tell you why G-10 is universally superior to plastic. I'll concede that G-10 has superior strength to weight. But, I'm pretty sure that the JR is nearly the same weight as the SDX. OK, so for the same weight then shouldn't the JR be stronger? Maybe, maybe not. It depends. Bridges made out of concrete and steel have been brought down by WIND! Engineering means a GREAT deal more than materials.

What am I getting at? Is the Plastic frame on the SDX superior to the G-10 frame on the Vibe 50? My answer. I don't care. Look at it this way. If Hirobo uses ENOUGH high quality plastic in a well engineered frame that is strong enough to get the job done, why should you need more material strength? My couch has a wood frame, and I can sit on it as hard as I want. Would it be made better by having a titanium frame? All it means is more money to buy/repair/replace. Arguments against the SDX will likely include it being plastic.

I don't see where the choice of material matters. Except for one thing...

Our hobby is EXTREMELY vain.

People will buy a third rate heli, so long as it has carbon fiber and anodized aluminum, while ignoring high quality plastic helis. It simply MUST look good on the bench, or it is "inferior." It really says something about how gullible and vain we can be. Plastic helis can be very good helis.

OK I beat that horse, let's get beyond the G-10 vs. plastic issue...

There's more you WON'T hear on the JR side...how the SDX 135 CCPM bellcranks are completely optimized with equal length linkages to the swashplate and equal sized bellcranks off of a common center. The Vibe has a short link to the swash's elevator with a backwards bellcrank like the old turn-of-the-century MA Furies which causes interaction.

You won't hear how if you prefer a mechanical swash mix to CCPM that you can't get a mechanically mixed JR at all, but you can get an HPM SDX.

Finally, you won't hear how even if the JR vibe were undoubtably superior...it'd better be because it costs more to buy/fly/crash.

No, I'm not a Hirobo rep. Or a fanboy. In fact, I almost bought the Vibe. It looks bada$$. But I looked at some of the details and found it wanting. The CCPM system had no obvious improvement over the much older Vigor CS series. Despite all the newer gyro/governor/carbsmart,etc gadgetry on the market, it had limited space for it all. It was priced very high, almost 90 class, which defeats the point of a 50 size machine. It was more marketing than engineering, in my opinion.

No, I'm not a Hirobo rep. Or a fanboy. Nor am I anti-JR. If JR comes out with something to beat the SDX tomorrow, I'll be just as jazzed.

I just don't think the Vibe 50 is that heli.

And darn it if I get pinked for speaking my mind...

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06-03-2009 03:12 AM  9 years agoPost 6
MRC-Hirobo

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Aaron,
That was very very well put.

The one thing I will say is that it is my understanding that the JR is much more heavy then the SDX. Like Aaron said it all boils down to engineering and Hirobo did it right with the SDX. Its not just about the 135/140 swash. Hirobo has hands down the most versatile head on the market.

MRC Host

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06-03-2009 03:28 AM  9 years agoPost 7
Parsifal

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I have the vibe 50. Its an awesome helicopter. Quality is up there and save for the tail hum that affects some people (which to date no one has an accurate idea as to the cause) and the lack of space in the radio tray, it is almost perfect.

That said, for your first heli, i would recommend the hirobo. Had a few in the past and they've always been great. Reliable, cheap to fix, etc. The vibe will be slightly more expensive to fix in a crash i reckon but not much. The vibe will also require a bit more attention to detail to build, experience with helis in the past will be helpful here.
If the SDX is anything like the Sceadu to build, it should be a breeze.

Pars.

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06-03-2009 03:49 AM  9 years agoPost 8
ShaCho

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Parsifal,
When was the last time you visited Champ RC in Japan? That store and Super RC has everything you can think of and then some.

Aim High!

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06-03-2009 04:00 AM  9 years agoPost 9
Turkana

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I have the Vibe 50 too and I do not know were the comment came from that the SDX parts are cheaper, thats simply not true. Check the Vibe parts and compare you will be surprised.
I have also been flying Hirobos and I just love them, fact IMO is that the Vibe needs more attention in the build and maintenance.So for the beginner I would recomend the SDX.
Flightperformance is well I guess down to the pilot on these two, they bouth fly awsome!
And yes some Vibes had issues with Vibrations, but IMO it comes down how well you build it, hence the comment that the SDX is better for the beginner.
I flew my EVo well over 500 flights and mostly they were just troublefree exept for the oneway bearing failing once in a whiele till I put the upgraded one in and it was history.
If Hirobo would have come out 5 months earlier with the SDX I probably would have taken it, so I ended up with the Vibe wich is by the way an exellent maschine and on the same level as Hirobo. Since I do not print money I probably will not have a whole fleet in the basement, but one thing is sure if I get a second big nitro bird it will be a Hirobo again.

Regards Pete

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06-03-2009 06:16 AM  9 years agoPost 10
Paul Woodcock

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Hi guys

If you really want a Vibe 50, mine is for sale.....so i can buy a SDX!!!!

The Vibe 50 is a great heli. It is my first JR heli and the design, quality and flying impressed me. I have had no vibration issues or failures of any kind on the heli. My complaints about it are that it is heavy, front radio tray is small and it is just not a Hirobo.....

My Evo50 (with some mods) was about 200g lighter than my Vibe 50, so i would assume the SDX will be way lighter.

Regards
Paul

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06-03-2009 08:10 AM  9 years agoPost 11
topspindok

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SDX all the way. I owned a heli hobby shop and have a choice to pick what ever I want to fly and having test it almost all of the 50s all there. SDX is favorites. I fell in love with SDX right from get go. You wont be disappointed.

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06-03-2009 09:36 AM  9 years agoPost 12
Parsifal

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Hi Turkana,

I have a vibe and its just a hunch based on how i have crashed mine vis-a-vis a sceadu crashing in terms of cost. I can't say for sure, just that i reckon it will be marginally more expensive to get the vibe back in order. I might be wrong here.

ShaCho

I was at champ RC aaaaaages ago... a few years back i think, my folks were living in Japan and i visited a couple of times. The stores there are cool but sometimes communication was an issue, still, managed to spend a fortune regardless..

Pars

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06-03-2009 03:45 PM  9 years agoPost 13
oatac126

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I will go get SDX
In thailand not many people play SDX.because it only one or two month
that SDX came in thailand.So I don't know that it will be famus in thailand or not.

but know now that what will be my first nitro heli.

you all chang my mind.

thank you

Oat

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06-03-2009 05:34 PM  9 years agoPost 14
davidevo50

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Shoke dee krhap Oat!!!

You will love the SDX!!!

LIVE IN THE NOW!

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06-05-2009 04:13 PM  9 years agoPost 15
Piyaphan1

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ShaCho,
I always order all my Hirobo parts from RC Champ in Japan. They have got me whatever I want. This is the best place for Hirobo products.

oatac126,
I'm from Thailand and I'm flying the SDX (maybe the only one right now!!)

I had flown the Vibe50 for the first time today. This heli belongs to my friend and I set up this heli for him.
The Vibe50 is definitely heavier that the SDX of mine. It also feels heavier in the air. For F3C, it has the fastest FFF compare to the SDX and Trex600. For 3D, it cannot compete with the SDX.
I forgot to mention that I sold the Trex600 and bought the SDX.
Out of the 3 heli, the SDX is definitely my favorite...I'm very happy

Piyaphan
TurbulenceD3 YS-SR3C / TurbulenceD3 YS-SR3C-RR / Lepton

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