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10-30-2011 11:51 PM  6 years agoPost 5041
helixangle

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Mamaroneck, NY - USA

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better yet...

upgrade what Vbar you have to version 5.1 pro, I'll set it up at the field.

No 5.2, I can't say that it's better yet.

He can make an assumption flying mine, but if he flies a day or two set up the way HE likes, you might find he won't go back

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10-31-2011 12:01 AM  6 years agoPost 5042
red_z06

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We always flew OPM on V-Bar. Because there are so many V-bars out there, we were able to test beginner setup to hot setups of all setting ranges. So, unless something stood out, I felt there was no need to get one.

He has a knack for acclimating to whatever he is flying in less than a minute with or without expo makes no difference to him.

Prior to BeastX, he has flown, many prototype setups that include Pro-Bar, FS600, TotalG, Gaui, Skookum (not 720 yet), 3G, and V-Bar.

After his very first flight with BeastX (no adjustment), he simply said "This flies just like a flybar". That translates to "Feel connected".

The consensus was that HC3X has the best tail while the system is similar to BeastX and V-Bar. But, the price is too high for most.
The only reason I got one is because there aren't any flying around that we can test.

I will mount this one to complete our test. Most likely we will sign up with BeastX next year.

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10-31-2011 03:45 PM  6 years agoPost 5043
DavidLD

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Anyone have a Powerlab 6 charger? I'm looking into support gear for electrics - not sure I'd need anything more than this, even for 12S?

Cellpro PowerLab 6

40A, 1000W, with a decent PS, should be able to charge a 12S setup at more than 3C (closer to 4C) dependably I would think.


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10-31-2011 03:49 PM  6 years agoPost 5044
red_z06

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I found dual port chargers more useful at the field than a single. Most current 12s packs are 2x 6s packs.

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10-31-2011 04:02 PM  6 years agoPost 5045
DavidLD

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Hm, the 8 can charge more than 1 pack. I assumed the 6 can also...I may have overlooked that. If that's the case, I'll keep looking


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10-31-2011 04:07 PM  6 years agoPost 5046
eddiscus

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David you have 2 ways of looking at it. If you run a mixed fleet, some helis using 6S and some using 12S you may want to think about the dual port like Benny mentioned.
Reason being if you have 2 6S packs that were run seperatly then there may be enough of a charge difference that parallel charging would not be advised. If the 2 6S were part of a 12S setup Or a 12S stick pack than parallel charging would be ok.

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10-31-2011 04:11 PM  6 years agoPost 5047
DavidLD

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Ah, I understand. Thanks.

Doesn't seem to be a huge difference in cost for a Duo charger anyways.


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10-31-2011 04:13 PM  6 years agoPost 5048
red_z06

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if you have 2 6S packs that were run seperatly then there may be enough of a charge difference
As long as one is not charged full and the other completely empty, you can put a parallel adapter and leave them sitting for a while before parallel charging.

I did some calculations before the 45c days regarding pack to pack charging and safe voltage difference. The important thing is that the receiving pack does not exceed 3-5c charge.

The other port is more for different cell charging like Ed said. You might have a foamy or a little 450 pack that might need to be charged while the other is being done.

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10-31-2011 04:21 PM  6 years agoPost 5049
eddiscus

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During your test benny what was the safe voltage differential on the 45C packs.

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10-31-2011 04:21 PM  6 years agoPost 5050
S.Favorite

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I have two 6s packs that I run on my 600, running the timer these packs always come down within 5% of each other. the power lab 8 is well worth the money.

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10-31-2011 04:27 PM  6 years agoPost 5051
red_z06

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I did them to 30c packs and 0.2v per cell diff was within safe limit.

So, for 6s, that would be 1.2v difference.

It is fairly easy to run. Discharge one 6s pack about 0.1v per cell and connect higher pack to source on the watt meter and lower pack on load and read the current levels.

You then discharge the 2nd pack some more and test at 0.15v difference etc.

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10-31-2011 04:36 PM  6 years agoPost 5052
eddiscus

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David if you know you will only be getting one charger. Then the dual port similar to the Hyperions would be the way to go. It gives you the option of treating them as 2 seperatly packs or if they are part of a 12s setup as one pack. It also opens you up to being able to charge 2 packs of different cell configuration.

One feature I like about the powerlab chargers is the regenerative discharge. If you are test cycling or need to discharge a full pack the regenerative discharge allows for a higher discharge rate than most charges when connected to a lead acid battery.

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10-31-2011 05:18 PM  6 years agoPost 5053
Ahmed_A

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Besides Hyperion, who makes a decent dual charger. I'm kind of in the same boat now, looking for a charger that charges 6S packs. Does not need to be 1000w but don't want a 50w charger either.

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10-31-2011 05:20 PM  6 years agoPost 5054
red_z06

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ThunderPower 820 dual output 400w per port (800w total when run in 24v and 400w total in 12v mode)

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10-31-2011 05:35 PM  6 years agoPost 5055
Ahmed_A

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Tks Benny, that looks like it. need to start throwing hints at home for a Xmas present.

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10-31-2011 06:33 PM  6 years agoPost 5056
marc28

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@ Ahmed + 1 on the Thunder power 820 very nice

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10-31-2011 06:52 PM  6 years agoPost 5057
Ahmed_A

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Tks Marc. So far that looks like the best value.

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10-31-2011 07:09 PM  6 years agoPost 5058
red_z06

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This is the sign of the times! Look at the concentration on Kyle's face.

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10-31-2011 07:18 PM  6 years agoPost 5059
eddiscus

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Dumont, NJ-USA

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Oh Nooooooo! Even he has gone to the dark side.

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10-31-2011 07:22 PM  6 years agoPost 5060
Scott1115

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Greenwich, CT

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Looking in my telescope - I think I see hell freezing.

Compass 7HV, Trex 550E
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