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06-04-2009 08:59 AM  9 years agoPost 41
splitboarder

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I think I have a good persepctive on this because I have been in for about 9 months now with no previous R/C experience

#1- Sim

#2- Clone 450 ( cheapest you can get) . Your going to crash, we all know that. Take some of the pocketbook shock out by starting with one of these cheap clones , electronics and all. As your friend gets better he can upgrade his parts.

#3-This one is BIG . Tune down everything and fly in normal mode at first. I see so many guys teach others and set up the newbies heli for 3D. To me this is a big mistake.
Just like learning to fly a real fixed wing you have to start out with something SLOW . Even if you want to fly F-18's its better to start in a cessna.
Once I learned to rebuild my own heli I also started de-tunning it so I started crashing less.

#4- Teach him how to rebuild his heli .

As he gets better bring the servo mixing percentages up and start flying in mode 1 or 2 with a higher head speed but not untill he has some forward flight , hovering and figure 8's down

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06-04-2009 07:14 PM  9 years agoPost 42
bkervaski

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Birmingham, AL, USA

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A TREX600N with a OS Hyper 50 and the Align muffler is a set and forget needle, 1 turn open, not much harder to tune than that. Maybe a couple flights at factory setting just to get it settled in. *And* you get like 8-10 minute flights (vs 3-6) and you can fly all day without charging a single battery. I don't even bring a charger to the field, I just fuel and fly, 20+ flights on my two Synergy's before my batteries need recharged. Not to mention they are more stable in a hover (600/50 vs 450).

I still disagree that a 450 is a beginners heli.

No, they don't auto, that video is a controlled crash, there is no room for error, that guy didn't learn how to auto on a 450.

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06-04-2009 07:50 PM  9 years agoPost 43
30636086

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Tacoma, WA

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what about some like these?

Watch at YouTube

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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06-04-2009 10:49 PM  9 years agoPost 44
Richardmid1

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Leeds, England

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A new guy wants to get lots of stick time on the real thing, thats not going to happen with a nitro. With a small electric he can fly anywhere anytime. For example, I went for a quick fly with my new nitro heli tonight, I made sure everything was ready, receiver pack charged, starter battery charged, fueled up ready to go... or so I thought! The damn glow stick didn't have enough charge in it! Even if it did what if the glow plug crapped out or the muffler came loose etc etc!

Nitro's are great if you have all day.

Bit like someone learning to ride a motorbike before they can ride a pushbike.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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06-04-2009 11:18 PM  9 years agoPost 45
bkervaski

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My opinion is that a new guy shouldn't be flying anywhere except for an AMA field with other experienced pilots around, regardless of the size of the helicopter. A 450 might not kill somebody but it can cause some serious injury.

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06-04-2009 11:46 PM  9 years agoPost 46
JAGNZ

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Auckland, New Zealand

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I started with a Raptor 50 - GREAT learning helis the 50's. Nice and visible and STABLE. I then got a 450 for indoor flying. This helped my hovering maneuvers no end. I bought my SIM right after the 50 and man did that help.

I would not recommend a 450 for a beginner but that's just me. WAY too unstable and easy to crash. 50's are docile in comparison plus the fuel and fly factor means you get a lot of stick time early on and that is what you need. No waiting for batteries to charge etc....


Jason Greenwood

www.3dheli.co.nz

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08-02-2009 10:12 PM  8 years agoPost 47
eyeflyhelis

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charlotte nc

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what is this magnificent thing called a sim you all speak of? it must be a new fancy fandango!!!

only you have the power to make no difference!

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08-02-2009 10:33 PM  8 years agoPost 48
ch-47c

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san jose, ca

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My opinion is that a new guy shouldn't be flying anywhere except for an AMA field with other experienced pilots around, regardless of the size of the helicopter.
If you can be so lucky this great advice. If not, at least find an experienced heli pilot or group to help. Some fields hate helis. I was harassed when I started helis and no one around could fly them, much less teach me anything.

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