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06-04-2009 03:18 AM  9 years agoPost 81
iceman320

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no I haven't heard of radd school but I will check it out. I got my new servo and let it center itself, and now the swash moves up and down like I used to. but I didn't get a chance to see if my heli flies cause my battery died, and I think that it's trying to crap out on me, so I'm going to get a new one and maybe even a new radio system. so i glad that the swash moves like it should again.

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06-04-2009 12:18 PM  9 years agoPost 82
DougsRC

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I got my new servo and let it center itself, and now the swash moves up and down like I used to.
Thats good news. icemans heli-journey continues

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06-04-2009 12:46 PM  9 years agoPost 83
Heli Bob

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way to go iceman heli god is on you're side now

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06-05-2009 03:48 AM  9 years agoPost 84
iceman320

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okay guys I got my heli to lift off but when it goes to lift off it wants to lean to the left all the time, and I have to push the right stick forward and to the right. what do I need to adjust to get it to get it to go straight up?

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06-05-2009 04:07 AM  9 years agoPost 85
Heli_KV

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Leaning to the left on take off is normal for every heli with CW rotating head - tail rotor pushes to the left. So on take off you compensate by right stick to the right.

In flight heli should be tilted a bit to the right side - again to compensate tail rotor push.

Ideally when you are off the ground and ground effect (30-60sm), heli shoud not require permanent sticks input - only slight corrections. If you have to constantly push forward and to the right - swash is not levelled. If it is a little bit - try to correct by trims. If a lot of trim is required - better to set swash level strictly perpendecular to the main shaft.

No one heli flyes good if not being setup thoroughly.

Good achievment nevertheless! Congrats!

Edit: Foreward/rearward tendency can be because of CG - it should be right on main shaft.

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06-05-2009 05:33 AM  9 years agoPost 86
iceman320

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okay thanks, I thought that having to push the stick forward and to the right wasn't normal, but now that I know that it is normal i will try it again tomorrow and over the weekend. thanks again.

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06-05-2009 12:37 PM  9 years agoPost 87
Heli_KV

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Stick to the right - only on take off. On hovering, out of the ground, there should not be constant stick input in some direction. I mean you should not push stick forward all the time.

Good luck!

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06-05-2009 07:54 PM  9 years agoPost 88
iceman320

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is there anything I can do to make it feel like I have control of the heli cause it kind of feels like I have no control over it. and I was wondering what would make the biggest difference in making it feel like I have control of the heli instead of feeling like it has control of me. thanks.

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06-06-2009 01:02 AM  9 years agoPost 89
fenderstrat

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is there anything I can do to make it feel like I have control of the heli cause it kind of feels like I have no control over it. and I was wondering what would make the biggest difference in making it feel like I have control of the heli instead of feeling like it has control of me. thanks.
more stick time,period

other than that though,you need to fine tune your set up now that you have the servo thing worked out.trying to learn on a heli that is not properly set up is a nightmare,and getting comfortable hovering is hard enough as it is

good job on getting the heli airborne,now its just some tweaking and you will be all set

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06-06-2009 01:45 AM  9 years agoPost 90
DougsRC

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more stick time,period
Yes sir rie Bob ! There is no magic pill, no magic button, Carefull set-up, doing some homework, stick-time, Sim time but mostly stick-time will yield results It's kinda like all these Magic diets pills peeps fall for---less calories and more exercise gives the best results

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06-06-2009 01:53 AM  9 years agoPost 91
fenderstrat

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oh I forgot,if you want to learn how to hover REALLY QUICKLY there is a secret.....go buy the most expensive and fastest servos you can,go buy a 200 dollar gyro,anything that is plastic on your heli replace IMMEDIATELY with CNC,and all blades must be CF,this will take the place of any and all practicing............not

stick time set up and did anyone mention stick time

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06-06-2009 02:10 AM  9 years agoPost 92
DougsRC

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There is a shortcut to hovering--a co-ax but a shortcut to flying a CP heli--- not so much

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06-06-2009 02:30 AM  9 years agoPost 93
Heli_KV

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FP heli. Hirobo Quark - at least it takes off up, but not left. It is tilted on the ground

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06-06-2009 03:51 AM  9 years agoPost 94
Gregor99

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Here are a few things that helped me relax and get ahead of the heli instead of chasing it around.

1) For a heli to change directions, the rotor has to tilt toward the direction of movement. There is a slight delay between rotor tilt and actual aircaft movement. A drift will start with the rotor tilting ever so slightly. If you see the rotor start to tilt, counter that movement before the heli has time to react. The counter movement is a short input in the opposite direction, then a return to the center postion. Keep your eye on the rotor, head and main shaft area. It will give you clues as to what the heli is about to do.

2) Since there is slight delay in the heli reaction to the rotor tilting, you cannot expect the stick responses to be real-time. It takes a few milliseconds for the rotor to tilt, and air pressure to build up in response to the change in control surfaces. I used to run RC cars where the connection to the surface (asphalt) gives you close to real time responses. We are flying in air, which is soft and squishy. It requires that your input is slightly ahead of what you want the heli to do. It also requires that if you don't know how much input is needed, give a small amount of input and wait to see how the heli responds. Over time you'll get the feel for how much input is required to get the desired movement.

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06-06-2009 04:33 AM  9 years agoPost 95
iceman320

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okay, thanks guys I will try your tips. I flew it a little bit tonight and I did a little better that this morning, but I still can't get it to hover in one place. but i will be trying it again tomorrow. Might also try out a heading lock gyro just for kicks.

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06-07-2009 08:02 PM  9 years agoPost 96
Heli Bob

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To me the first thing to put on is the hh gyro it is going to be much essayer to fly on the dxi6 put it the servos reaction a little lees touchy to hover.

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06-07-2009 09:52 PM  9 years agoPost 97
iceman320

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I will probably do the hh gyro and some aluminum upgrades on the head to see if that helps out with making the head a little more solid, and get some of the play out of the plastic parts. then I have been thinking about up grading my radio system to a futaba 7c or similar radio.

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