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04-23-2009 05:17 PM  9 years agoPost 1
999R

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can make my mind? which is better? I want to use it to learn 3D

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04-23-2009 05:51 PM  9 years agoPost 2
cstoneman

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I choose the 4S Rave with 350mm blades.

I went through the same process, and since I have a couple XCells, my initial choice was the Furion.

After some research, I bought a Rave due to the 4S 350 option, and the fact that Rave parts are a bit less. The Rave is a great flier and I don't regret the choice.

That said, I am sure the Furion is also a great machine.

Neither is better, as both use high quality parts.

The Rave with 350's probably flies bigger then the Furion, but setup has a lot to do with it.

You will have to make the choice, or flip a coin?

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04-23-2009 05:53 PM  9 years agoPost 3
Wingman77

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the rave rocks!! the quality is just awesome, also with the TT if you like autos as much as I do you will like the rave a lot better, I just won the aerobatic auto contest with a rave in Huntsville.

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04-24-2009 02:03 AM  9 years agoPost 4
999R

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May i know what's your sey up cstoneman n Wingman77?

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04-24-2009 02:11 AM  9 years agoPost 5
Wingman77

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well, as it says in my profile...

350 radix mains
scorpion 8 on 4s with a 11t pinion
cc35 and ccbec
minig with a 3400g
285mg's on cyclic

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04-24-2009 02:36 AM  9 years agoPost 6
cstoneman

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350 radix blades
scorpion -10 on 4s
Thunder Power 40A ESC
Mini-g with a DS3500G tail servo (boom Mount)
DS285MG's on swash.
Spektrum AR6200 2.4GHz Receiver

I love it.

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04-24-2009 05:31 AM  9 years agoPost 7
999R

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What's the headspeed?

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04-25-2009 03:48 AM  9 years agoPost 8
Wingman77

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I am running 3100 right now I put a 12t pininon on and taht hopped it up to about 3450 and it was just qway too much

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04-25-2009 06:07 AM  9 years agoPost 9
Stick Twanger

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can make my mind? which is better? I want to use it to learn 3D
999R,
Either helicopter will work for learning 3D.
If you go with the Rave, get a load of replacement TT gears. You will need them.
If you go with the Furion, Just put it together and fly it.

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04-25-2009 05:42 PM  9 years agoPost 10
rexxigpilot

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999R, just like I wouldn't recommend learning to race motorcycles on a Ducati, I can't recommend either the Rave or Furion to learn 3D on. While both are very capable 3D machines, they both have relatively expensive replacement parts and have extremely quick response. The power to weight ratios are also quite high with the recommended power systems. What I'm trying to tell you is these two machines are beyond your present capability. Sorry, but it's true. You can tone both helis down somewhat, but my guess is you won't. Therefore, you will crash hard and OFTEN learning 3D with the Rave or Furion.

I recommed you get a heli that is less powerful, cheaper to repair and for which parts are readily available like a T-Rex to learn on. I also don't believe a 450 size is the best size to learn 3D on. They are just too high spirited. Try a 50 size nitro or even a 500 class electric. You won't crash as often and the parts aren't much more. Your 3D flying skills will progress much faster this way IMHO.

After you have confidence in your 3D abilities, get both the Rave and Furion. They are like vanilla and chocolate ice cream. Both taste great, just a bit different.

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04-25-2009 06:35 PM  9 years agoPost 11
cstoneman

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999R, just like I wouldn't recommend learning to race motorcycles on a Ducati, I can't recommend either the Rave or Furion to learn 3D on
I would say it depends on the individual. If you use your head, you will be fine with a Ducati or a Rave. If you can't control yourself, then you will have problems.

Those are good points, but not set in stone.

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04-29-2009 12:56 PM  9 years agoPost 12
naked painter

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I chose the Furion to advance my 3d and it was a good move. I would point out though that if you're still at the stage where you're crashing often I'd look at something like a T -Rex 450.

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12-15-2009 06:38 AM  8 years agoPost 13
Bramiheli

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Im also stuck between the Rave and the Furion. What about the crash costs? Which is cheaper to fly? Is it possible the Rave will be more expensive because of the TT gear?

Bram

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12-15-2009 01:33 PM  8 years agoPost 14
rexxigpilot

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They are both great flying helis. I picked the Furion because I didn't want a torque tube. Like many, I use a 450 size to expand my flying abilities and take risks I would not take with a 50 or 90. Consequently, crashing is a given. The TT is too fragile and costly to repair. It is also not needed on a 450 class heli since the benifits in autos are not realized. 450 don't auto worth a crap anyway.

Torque tubes are overrated. It was interesting to see that the soon to be released Synergy N5 and MA Fury 55 have belts. That's a good thing!

While both the Rave and Furion are fairly rugged, the Rave has a more fragile fiberglass cano. The Furion cano is bleach bottle plastic and nearly indestructable. The frames on the Rave are also prone to breakage in a crash. Overall, the Furion is a more forgiving heli in a crash.

All the robustness of the Furon does come at a price. It is heavier than the Rave and flies heavier. Don't expect a Furion to float like a T-Rex 450. It doesn't. The Rave can be setup with 350mm blades and made to fly very docile, if desired. The Furion is extreme at 3200 heaspeed and above. It doesn't fly well at low headspeeds, say under 2850. I'm sure this has to do with its weight.

Hope this helps you in making a decision.

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12-17-2009 05:54 AM  8 years agoPost 15
Stolla

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Ok i have 3 furions one is minivbar so you know what i'd recommend, but let me say this, i made up my mind after seeing my mates flybarless rave, while it's undisputably a good flier i had to help him "fix" it to fly good the main gear is sloppy on the shaft, dampers are loose in the head, bevel gears strip for nothing and its frames look very fragile compared to furion or 450 pro.
That's why i chose the furion, all i can say is the quality is unsurpassed, there is some issues with the tail at very high headspeeds above 3200 but i fixed mine with radix carbons.
The canopy is crappy looking although it may be robust it makes the furion look cheap so canomod is the answer
I agree torque tubes are overrated, just look at how well the logos fly with belts.

Common sense may not be common after all

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12-24-2009 01:10 AM  8 years agoPost 16
xxlrg

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Man I woulnt listen to the people with all the(buy lots of tt gears cause you are gonna need em). The gears strip out about as easy as the ones on my 600nsp.

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12-24-2009 07:38 AM  8 years agoPost 17
OICU812

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If you are dead set deciding between the Furion and the Rave I'd say the Furion. Secondly and this of course needs to be considered is what is easier for you to access for parts? If you are confident in your landings and such then the TT is not a concern, then you may as well consider the t-rex 450 Pro as well as it builds and flies fine actually. All are good at this stage, the Pro, the Rave, the Furion just decide what appeals to you most and what makes sense for you.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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