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04-24-2009 04:21 AM  9 years agoPost 21
Dennis (RIP)

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Hard to do when you don't watch TV
Then, how do you know about Glen Beck?

Radio?

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04-24-2009 04:26 AM  9 years agoPost 22
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I didn't say I don't have a TV, I just don't watch it, maybe once a week I sit down to watch TV for an hour or so, or the local news. I read the internet, and research topics that interest me. the only thing my TV is for to me is movies.

I watched TV during the primaries, and that's when Glen Beck threw the only politician that is consistent to his own ideas under the bus. I can only extrapolate from that, and other things I have seen from him, that he is a tool.

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04-24-2009 04:37 AM  9 years agoPost 23
Dennis (RIP)

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I watched TV during the primaries, and that's when Glen Beck threw the only politician that is consistent to his own ideas under the bus. I can only extrapolate from that, and other things I have seen from him, that he is a tool.
I'm curious John. A tool for what or who?

You do realize he is Libertarian, right?

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04-24-2009 04:54 AM  9 years agoPost 24
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No he's not. Glenn Beck belittled, and minumized Ron Paul during the primaries, and now wants to pretend to enspouse his views, and pretend he right all of a sudden. He's a tool like the rest, placed to give the people that agree with him a false feeling that someone on TV agrees with them.
You are entitled to your opinion. By your own admission, you haven't watched and listened to him. He has admitted he was wrong. He is fed up with BOTH political parties, like most people at the Tea Parties. I don't believe he is insincere.

I also would like to know, you think he is a tool for who or what?

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04-24-2009 05:04 AM  9 years agoPost 25
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By your own admission, you haven't watched and listened to him.
On TV.
I also would like to know, you think he is a tool for who or what?
placed to give the people that agree with him a false feeling that someone on TV agrees with them.
No one in TV, or the media in general wants things to change tooo radically, if it does, then they are going to lose out. It's why someone like Ron Paul can't get elected. The people in charge want to stay in charge, it's all about the bottom line, and to keep the bottom line fat, you must be angry, but not quite angry enough to actually do anything about it.

If you could fix all of Americas problems, and turn the tide of our sinking ship, but it meant you had to sacrifice everything...would you? Look around you, people don't want to give up their status, their SUVs, their nice homes and cushy jobs, hell you can't get people to put down their hamburger to save their ****ing life much less to save something so abstract as our freedom.

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04-24-2009 05:12 AM  9 years agoPost 26
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No one in TV, or the media in general wants things to change tooo radically, if it does, then they are going to lose out. It's why someone like Ron Paul can't get elected. The people in charge want to stay in charge, it's all about the bottom line, and to keep the bottom line fat, you must be angry, but not quite angry enough to actually do anything about it.
Ok, now I am really confused. Glenn Beck is a tool for who or what?
I don't see the answer to that in the above statement.

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04-24-2009 05:12 AM  9 years agoPost 27
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If you could fix all of Americas problems, and turn the tide of our sinking ship, but it meant you had to sacrifice everything...would you?
Not sure what you mean John. But Reagan saved a sinking ship. Remember:

Hostages in Iran (nasty)
Double digit inflation (ouch)
Huge job losses (yikes)
Recession (not cool)
Gas Lines (thirsty cars)
President Carter (horrible)
Berlin Wall (it went down)
Soviet Republic (it went down to)
Confidence in America (it was returned to us)

He was not perfect. But, the most well liked and successful president in modern times.

We need another hero. It will not be Obama. That, I am convinced of. Hopefully I am wrong on that. But, doubt it.

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04-24-2009 05:43 AM  9 years agoPost 28
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Dennis what I meant by that is that to truely change this country, and fix it's problems is something that is going to take more than the average sitting at home get pissed watching TV nation we have become is willing to give. I don't believe ANY of the talking heads on the TV, or their bosses want things to really change, it would disrupt the bottom line,a nd that is what it is ALL about to them. they are not your friends, they are not your ally, they are salesmen, selling you ideology, and 30 second commercial spots.

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04-24-2009 06:00 AM  9 years agoPost 29
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Dennis what I meant by that is that to truely change this country, and fix it's problems is something that is going to take more than the average sitting at home get pissed watching TV
I'll buy that.
I don't believe ANY of the talking heads on the TV, or their bosses want things to really change, it would disrupt the bottom line,a nd that is what it is ALL about to them. they are not your friends, they are not your ally, they are salesmen, selling you ideology, and 30 second commercial spots.
Hmmmm. Well, it is a business. They survive on ratings. Good ratings get higher dollar advertising. I'll buy that as well to some extent.

As far as its all about THEM. Well, I suppose that is true to some degree. Also, there are those that do that because its a job they like and it pays well. Its always great to have a job you enjoy and you can put your heart and soul into.

I watch them all from time to time. I have to admit, I am like more and more others by favoring Fox. Some hate em, some love em. Its just my view that I get a lot better and more informed information there. Plus some good entertainment.

The left media is not doing so well right now. They are loosing ratings, viewers, and loosing millions of dollars. The right media is doing very well right now with high ratings, gaining viewers, and making millions. There is a reason for that. All can make up their own minds on that. I won't try to convince anyone as to why.

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04-24-2009 03:48 PM  9 years agoPost 30
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No he's not. Glenn Beck belittled, and minumized Ron Paul during the primaries, and now wants to pretend to enspouse his views, and pretend he right all of a sudden.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you here John. Glenn Beck cast his vote for Bob Barr in the election. He has given Ron Paul more air time than any other person in the media.

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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04-24-2009 04:00 PM  9 years agoPost 31
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He has given Ron Paul more air time than any other person in the media.
And flew through the important issues to spend half an hour crying about Ron Paul supporters harrassing him, as if Ron Paul controls people. Minumizing, and marginalizing.

It isn't hard to say it was the best airtime he got since he was blacked out half the time. It was a dog and pony show start to finish, I mean seriously, give me a break, McCain? The worst possible nominee to go up against the wonder child.
The media darling that got thrown under the bus, come the general, he got picked because he was the sure loss.

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04-24-2009 04:33 PM  9 years agoPost 32
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And flew through the important issues to spend half an hour crying about Ron Paul supporters harrassing him, as if Ron Paul controls people. Minumizing, and marginalizing.
I must have missed that show. I have heard plenty of Ron Paul supporters on various radio shows. Most of them are completely incapable of articulating a valid argument. It's no wonder that radio show hosts feel like they are being harassed by them.

The Ron Paul supporters who call into these shows are fringe kooks that hardly ever have anything to say, that is worth listening to. They want to talk about 9/11 CT theories and fema camps. If they would stick to the issues that matter, like the constitutionality of legislation, they would make some headway. But, they don't, and that has discredited the movement.
It was a dog and pony show start to finish, I mean seriously, give me a break, McCain? The worst possible nominee to go up against the wonder child.
Yes, McCain was the worst choice the Republican party could have made. But, that's what happens when people don't pay attention. They loose.

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04-24-2009 05:01 PM  9 years agoPost 33
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The Ron Paul supporters who call into these shows are fringe kooks that hardly ever have anything to say, that is worth listening to. They want to talk about 9/11 CT theories and fema camps. If they would stick to the issues that matter, like the constitutionality of legislation, they would make some headway. But, they don't, and that has discredited the movement.
Ron Paul is not his fringe supporters, his movement is not about the things his fringe supporters scream about, the media gave that impression to people, and they said it enough that it stuck. He publically disavowed the 9/11 Truth movement, and said that it was ridiculous to think that the government commited such a crime, how much airtime did that get? Not a whole heck of a lot, because it didn't help to marginalize him.

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04-24-2009 05:04 PM  9 years agoPost 34
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Ron Paul won 90 % of the straw polls in America, yet he only managed to get 6% average vote? There is something VERY wrong here..
Even in his own district, he won overwhelmingly for Congress, but just 3% in the presidential race in his own district? GIVE me a break...I don't believe it...these votes were manipulated!!! Not to mention they got caught Red handed in NH, Iowa

Glen Beck was driving me crazy, disperately hunting someone to his values (which match Ron Pauls platform completely) yet, he couldn't seem to help Ron Paul? No one can be that dumb, unless they were following a script..Ron Paul was, and is a Republican

The MSM is playing you for a bunch of fools, they are playing the same game as the Republicans, and demograts, Libiral, conservitive. Its the most fake wrestling match ever...

Glen Beck is a tool, and a very good one for the NWO just like ART Bell

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04-24-2009 06:52 PM  9 years agoPost 35
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Even in his own district, he won overwhelmingly for Congress,
I remember the term "landslide" being used to describe his victory, something like 70%. It was right at the time when the republican party of Texas was pulling some ridiculous shinanigans. I don't know if anyone here followed what happened here in south Texas, but it was a joke to say the least. Being at the county convention and seeing first hand the railroading changed the way I view the party forever, hence why I don't give an inch to the falsehoods.

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