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04-22-2009 12:55 PM  9 years agoPost 1
heliman1189

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hello can someone help me im thinking about buying a gaui 200 flybarless heli and not sure if i should can any one tell me does the barless helis fly about the same as a heli with a fly bar and do they hover the same just trying to make up my mind i can fly helis i do not do any 3d suff so any help would be great
p.s one more thing does any one know if maxwell servo are any good or ace servos

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04-22-2009 01:04 PM  9 years agoPost 2
3dricky

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i have been told in the past that you really need to fly em to get the flybarless working properly. I was going to go flybarless but without electronics but the thought went away. Its like this if you want it you will get it. Juast enjoy it and if you do give some feedback love to hear what it flys like

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04-22-2009 01:17 PM  9 years agoPost 3
hm_oliver

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I have never flown one but I believe they are very responsive, especially the roll rate. If you want something more stable for the hover you are prob best with the flybar. If you want the cool factor go flybarless and I am sure you will adapt.

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04-22-2009 01:57 PM  9 years agoPost 4
rotormonkey

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Not true. Flybarless with electronic stabilization can be as twitchy or as stable as you want - just like a flybarred heli. The difference is, do you adjust it by adding weight, changing paddles, or do you click your mouse?

The gyros will even correct for it pitching in the wind for you! So when you get a gust, it stays nice and level. When you go into forward flight - no pitching up no matter how tight your head is.

You'll also get a little more power because there's less drag. And it will auto better. Which means it'll still auto like crap because it's a 200, but still "better"

I think I'm going to try flybarless on one of my machines real soon like.

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04-22-2009 02:06 PM  9 years agoPost 5
Flying Brian

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And it will auto better. Which means it'll still auto like crap because it's a 200, but still "better
Whoooot, It will auto better? Hell, I'm sold then!!(JK)

But, the more power issue is a really cool feature, along with the gyro sensing units. Sounds like fun, but it sure is expensive though.
If you want the cool factor go flybarless and I am sure you will adapt.
And there is nothing wrong with this either, because being cool,,,well, there is nothing better.

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04-22-2009 07:12 PM  9 years agoPost 6
VooDooX

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lol ^

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04-22-2009 07:35 PM  9 years agoPost 7
Jag72

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Flybarless
Flybarless is the wave of the future...butif you go flybarless DO NOT get that POS gaui Unit ...it's more headache than it's worth...

I have 9 flybarless machines right now and the only system I use is the mikado ...(getting a couple gyrobots next week though)

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04-22-2009 07:53 PM  9 years agoPost 8
TOSH

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The gyros will even correct for it pitching in the wind for you!
That`s what a flybar does. Hence V-Bar virtual flybar. Flybarless on a 200 size heli would be pretty much a waste of time IMHO.

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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04-22-2009 08:05 PM  9 years agoPost 9
rotormonkey

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That`s what a flybar does
Flybar isn't 100% perfect though. If you have a really stiff head (as I do on my larger machine) it still pitches up in FF or in wind. All I'm saying is that running FBL will fix that too. At least that's my understanding.

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04-22-2009 08:17 PM  9 years agoPost 10
TOSH

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Yes V-bar is much more adjustable than a flybar. You can have very stable but very quick cyclic at the same time.

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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