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04-22-2009 08:33 AM  9 years agoPost 1
Rchover1967

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Perth, WA, Australia

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I have a few 25C Outrage lipos. It specify on the label - 25C 45 Amp continuous and 50C 90 Amp burst.

Using a Wattsup amp meter, I can see that I am getting 43 Amp (continuous) on my application and these lipos get pretty hot and fully puffed up after each flight. They however do go back to their original size after cooling down.

On helifreak, some people mentioned that this is fine and normal. What do you guys think?

Puffs...goes the Lipo.

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04-22-2009 08:39 AM  9 years agoPost 2
Funky Trex

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Westerville, OH - USA

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Last year I had really good luck with Outrage packs (I have 12 of them in various sizes) although 2 weeks ago I puffed 3 in the same day. 2 of them were 4S packs and 1 6S. All of them are 25C packs with less than 30 cycles. Then last week I puffed another 6S pack during a short 3 min flight that only pulled 1200mah I had great luck with these packs last year, but all at once they seem to be going bad on me I didn't keep them charged over winter and these have never had more than 70% pulled from them. Temps are only around 60-70 outside so heat is not the issue. They are all around 1 year old so I wonder if the age is a problem. I have other brand packs I am running in these helis and they are not puffing.

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04-22-2009 09:15 AM  9 years agoPost 3
deafheliflyer

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Arizona

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hi
I am disappointed with the Outrage packs as well..

Mine is slightly puffed.. I will be keeping an eye on the new Hyperion packs.

Crash-Prone and overcoming it!!!

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04-22-2009 10:12 AM  9 years agoPost 4
naked painter

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They're not all they're cracked up to be.

Had one 3s fail after 10 charges.. The second is on it's way out. 20 charges.

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04-22-2009 12:11 PM  9 years agoPost 5
MrMel

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Gotland

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All mine does that too (puff a little), no drop in voltage (I log every flight) so I say its normal.
Its not much, just so you feel it.

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04-22-2009 06:20 PM  9 years agoPost 6
TJinGuy

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Socorro, NM - USA

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All my LiPos, Outrage included, puff a little when they get warm but they all go back down as they cool and are recharged. By little I mean you can feel anywhere from a barely perceptible to upwards of an 1/8in air gap. The warmer they get, the worse it is. I have also discovered that part of that has to do with the altitude I live at. There is decently less air pressure at 5000ft elevation and that allows the packs to show more of a air gap then at sea level.

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04-24-2009 01:19 PM  9 years agoPost 7
lloyd

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Perth,Australia (South African)

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I see my Outrage 2500 are also puffing.Whats the verdict,does Outrage honour puffing lipod as they only 5 1/2 months old?

Im also losing 30sec flight time

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04-24-2009 01:45 PM  9 years agoPost 8
Riq

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ND

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Im glad to see this thread. I have outrage 6s 5000s, and they come down "swelled" up after a flight. More so then my fp, ats, or zippys.
They get within 2-3mm from my pinion on my logo500.

Im worried about them myself. My zippy-h 5000s put out similar power, fit better and come down way cooler then my outrages.

Is the longevity there with outrages? Does anyone have this experience?

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05-08-2009 03:32 PM  9 years agoPost 9
tchavei

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Portugal

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Anyway, I have a puffed Outrage too... 19 flights and it just died. They always swell a little after a flight but this time it was definitely a puff.

Tony

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05-08-2009 10:42 PM  9 years agoPost 10
Steff Giguere

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St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

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I have a friend who has problems with two of his four Outrage 6S 2500 mah packs. I thought that he might have flown them too long.
Then last week I had a problem with one of my packs (6S 3000 mah), 49 cycles, and now today have problems with another, 43 cycles. I log every flight and also log how much mah I put back never went more than 2400 mah, which is the 80% mark. I'm thinking that this packs are not all they say.

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05-08-2009 10:57 PM  9 years agoPost 11
LaurenceGough

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UK

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I'm having a great time with the 2200 30C Outrage packs. Doesn't puff at all even after flight, balances and charges perfect. Not to mention that these are some of the lightest and most powerful 450 packs.

These have never been discharged over 80% and stored at 3.8v/pc if not being used for more than a day or two.

I'm testing both the 25C and 40C SMC packs currently, top of the line of car batteries and hopefully that'll shift to heli lipos too! So far they look very promising, they both have insane power but the 40C is in a class of it's own!

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05-09-2009 12:04 AM  9 years agoPost 12
tchavei

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Portugal

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*Edited for courtesy to BH*

Tony


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05-11-2009 09:13 AM  9 years agoPost 13
whisperdancer

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Porto, Portugal

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My 6s pack swells a little, but gets back to normal. These after 40 flights, with no voltage drops.

Tchavei: where did you buy your Outrage pack?

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05-11-2009 10:58 AM  9 years agoPost 14
tchavei

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Portugal

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I bought it locally but it was supplied by the Outrage UK importer (Blink-trading)

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05-11-2009 06:59 PM  9 years agoPost 15
ANDYC

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BICESTER/OXON england

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I bought two 10s 4200 packs from blink trading last October/November, just crashed my 600 and totalled one of my packs sent pictures to Blink and I am waiting for a response. Seems a little slow said he would call today but didn't, perhaps he is just busy I'll have to wait and see.

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05-12-2009 12:53 AM  9 years agoPost 16
GOTI

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TX

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I am glad I noticed this thread. I have 4 Outrage 6s 5000 packs I run in my Logo 500 and have recently noticed they are slightly puffed after a flight. They eventually go back to normal but are fairly mushy straight out of the machine.

They all have 40-50 flights and still produce good power. The voltages do not seem to have changed much (eLogger) but apparently this isn't isolated to me.

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05-12-2009 01:23 AM  9 years agoPost 17
whisperdancer

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Porto, Portugal

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From what I've been reading over some forums, in the Outrage and KongPower lipos, the small "puff" (or swelling) after a flight is perfectly normal.
Better to keep the batteries within a certain voltage. The last mAh's of a battery are terrible, and it gets hot very fast.

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05-12-2009 02:41 AM  9 years agoPost 18
QueeQueg

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West Texas

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I've been playing around with some of the new Hyperion G3s and they come off a flight the coolest of any packs I've ever flown on my TRex 450 and have yet to puff even slightly. They're only 10 flights old so far but I'm real impressed especially for the price.

I've got some 6S packs for my 700 which I haven't been able to fly on a hot day yet but they seem to be giving me similar results.

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05-12-2009 07:42 PM  9 years agoPost 19
LaurenceGough

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UK

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None of my lipos puff slightly or swell after flight .

Outrage and Kong's.

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05-12-2009 11:16 PM  9 years agoPost 20
Steff Giguere

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St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

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Technex how many cycles do your batteries have?

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