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04-24-2009 03:58 PM  9 years agoPost 81
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Perez Hilton-"She’s not apologizing and I’m not either. I would like to sit and coffee with her, but if she doesn’t want to meet with me, Equality California has also invited her out to dinner so hopefully she’ll accept their offer," he added. "But I have to thank FOX, you guys have been up my ass but I don’t care — I can take it. I am thankful to FOX for keeping the gay debate ongoing."

Meanwhile the Miss California State Director, Shanna Moakler (who has come under fire this week for reportedly ditching Prejean over her controversial answer) wants the 21-year-old to stop talking to the media and talk to Perez’s people instead.

"I know Carrie is very religious and God is a huge part of her life, but I was just surprised she went down that road and answered the question the way she did. I think it’s very necessary at this point (that she talk to Hilton or the Equality group) as we have a lot of openly gay sponsors who supported her and were not aware of her opinions on their lives and are now deeply hurt," Moakler said. "Carrie is going to have to stop doing the press circuit about how great it is she used the First Amendment and her First Right, and really sit down with these people that she’s hurt."
When are gay people going to understand the vast majority of Americans don't agree with their viewpoint and lifestyle? Not to mention, you have the state director of Miss California basically saying Carrie should have given a b.s. answer even if it wasn't the truth.

I give Carrie all the credit in the world because she answered truthfully, knowing full well that she would crucified in the media and popular hollywood and that it was a non-politically correct answer. Oh no, some people might get their feelings hurt. Can't have that! Let's publicly crucify her and burn her at the stake for this! Damn you Carrie!!

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04-24-2009 04:12 PM  9 years agoPost 82
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When are gay people going to understand the vast majority of Americans don't agree with their viewpoint and lifestyle?
Never.

The gay activists will never give up until they get their way. They just might get it.

But, as long as things like the Miss USA thing keep happening, that sets their cause back further. Cool !!!!!

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04-24-2009 08:01 PM  9 years agoPost 83
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"Carrie is going to have to stop doing the press circuit about how great it is she used the First Amendment and her First Right, and really sit down with these people that she’s hurt."

Don't ask the question if you can't take the answer. It is not her fault that they were hurt.

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04-24-2009 08:19 PM  9 years agoPost 84
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I have a question for some of you...

If it were proven 100% that homosexuality was an biological gene, and not solely a "choice", would you still be opposed to gay marriage?

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04-24-2009 08:25 PM  9 years agoPost 85
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If it were proven 100% that homosexuality was an biological gene, and not solely a "choice", would you still be opposed to gay marriage?
Yes.

Reason: I would not want to change the definition that marriage is between a man and a woman.

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04-24-2009 08:43 PM  9 years agoPost 86
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Ya know, the whole "gay marriage" argument is complete and total bs. Marriage is between a man and a woman. There is no reason to change that. Most Republicans and nearly every Democrat are more than willing to give gay couples the same privileges that married couples have now. Just don't call it marriage. Call it a civil union. Even Joe Biden has said he is against gay marriage, but for civil unions. That's exactly the same thing that McCain and Palin have said. So, why haven't the Democrats who are in charge already ram rodded that legislation through? Perhaps they need "the people" arguing about non-issues like gay marriage, and ignoring the damage that they are doing to the country?

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04-24-2009 08:51 PM  9 years agoPost 87
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Yes.

Reason: I would not want to change the definition that marriage is between a man and a woman.
So all equal rights, and recognition, just can't use the word marriage? Weird.
Perhaps they need "the people" arguing about non-issues like gay marriage
Seems to be anything but a non-issue to some, since they cling to it as if the world depended on it. If it's a non-issue, than how come they don't just say "Fine, be married, let's move on to more important things."?

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04-24-2009 09:00 PM  9 years agoPost 88
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If it's a non-issue, than how come they don't just say "Fine, be married, let's move on to more important things."?
The Democrats all claim to be "for gay marriage". So, why don't they approve it? They are in charge now.

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04-24-2009 09:04 PM  9 years agoPost 89
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just can't use the word marriage? Weird.
That doesnt seem to weird to me. I am not opposed to gay marriage except for the use of the word marriage.

Look at it this way, and I am not a religous man by any means. The bible states a marriage is between a man and a woman. There are enough bible thumpers in this country that dont want that changed. I see no reason they cant call it a civil union get it passed and move on.
The Democrats all claim to be "for gay marriage". So, why don't they approve it? They are in charge now.
Dont know abut other states but here in Ca, it was up for vote. The first time it was voted down 4 judges overturned the majority vote. Second time, it was voted down again. Now those same 4 judges are trying to turn it over again. At some point all the people are going to look at eachother and say WTF why do we even vote if all they do is changes the majority outcome.

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04-24-2009 09:24 PM  9 years agoPost 90
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The Democrats all claim to be "for gay marriage". So, why don't they approve it? They are in charge now.
The ones in Congress may. But, both Obama & Biden have already said they are against it.

Of course, that don't mean nothing. They could change their minds if they need those votes.

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04-24-2009 09:25 PM  9 years agoPost 91
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Look at it this way, and I am not a religous man by any means. The bible states a marriage is between a man and a woman. There are enough bible thumpers in this country that dont want that changed. I see no reason they cant call it a civil union get it passed and move on.
The gay activists will keep at it until they get their way.

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04-24-2009 09:37 PM  9 years agoPost 92
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The Democrats all claim to be "for gay marriage". So, why don't they approve it? They are in charge now.
That's not an answer to the question.

Seriously what is the opposition to the word marriage? Do people think that if gays are "married" than their marriage will somehow mean less? Can they have a wedding, or would they need to call that something else too?
I see no reason they cant call it a civil union get it passed and move on.
Or call it a marriage and move on.
Reason: I would not want to change the definition that marriage is between a man and a woman.
Kind of like how blacks could drink, just not out of your fountain?

And by the way, the definition of marriage isn't only between a man and a woman.

mar·riage
Pronunciation:\ˈmer-ij, ˈma-rij\
Function:noun
Etymology:Middle English mariage, from Anglo-French, from marier to marry
Date:14th century
1 a (1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage> b: the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c: the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
2: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected ; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
3: an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry — J. T. Shawcross>

mar·ry
Pronunciation:\ˈmer-ē, ˈma-rē\
Function:verb
Inflected Form(s):mar·ried; mar·ry·ing
Etymology:Middle English marien, from Anglo-French marier, from Latin maritare, from maritus married
Date:14th century
transitive verb
1 a: to join in marriage according to law or custom b: to give in marriage <married his daughter to his partner's son> c: to take as spouse : wed <married the girl next door> d: to perform the ceremony of marriage for <a priest will marry them> e: to obtain by marriage <marry wealth>
2: to unite in close and usually permanent relation
intransitive verb
1: to take a spouse : wed
2: combine, unite <seafood marries with other flavors>
— marry into : to become a member of by marriage <married into a prominent family>

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04-24-2009 09:50 PM  9 years agoPost 93
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Kind of like how blacks could drink, just not out of your fountain?
Not at all.

Marriage between a man and a woman has been in existence since time began. Speaking for myself, I don't want to change that. It demeans the meaning of marriage to me. But, thats just me.

I know its an emotional and dividing issue for us. I don't care. Whenever I have a chance to vote keeping the definition of marriage between a man and a woman, I will do so. Every single time.

And no, I am not a religious zealot. Heck, I don't even go to church except once in a blue moon. Just have long held beliefs & traditions in some areas I don't want to give up.

BTW: Blacks can drink out of the same fountain I use anytime.

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04-24-2009 09:58 PM  9 years agoPost 94
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Not at all.
Yes, it is exactly the same mentality, exactly.
Marriage between a man and a woman has been in existence since time began.
So has murder.
It demeans the meaning of marriage to me.
How so?
BTW: Blacks can drink out of the same fountain I use anytime.
Of course they can, now, but it isn't because they settled for "civil unions".

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04-24-2009 09:58 PM  9 years agoPost 95
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JohnLund
So all equal rights, and recognition, just can't use the word marriage? Weird.
Not really. Marriage for most is defined by the Bible. I find it strange how some can claim to be gay AND believe in God. The bible says homosexuality is bad. So how can someone claim to be both gay and a Christian? How can a Christian who believes that "X" happened cause it is written in the Bible ignore what the same book says about "Y"?

I think the Govt should just recognize civil unions and move on.
Or call it a marriage and move on.
Or they can call it a civil union and move on. They would get MUCH more support instead of being in a pissing match.

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04-24-2009 09:59 PM  9 years agoPost 96
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Yes, it is exactly the same mentality, exactly.
Maybe in your mind John. Not mine. No offense.

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04-24-2009 10:10 PM  9 years agoPost 97
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That's not an answer to the question.
If it's a non-issue, than how come they don't just say "Fine, be married, let's move on to more important things."?
Ok, maybe it's because they are driven only by money and power. Legislating something as trivial as gay marriage gives them neither. Still, the vast majority of Americans do believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. By allowing gay marriage, they would be further dividing the country. Gays need to accept "civil unions" for now, and move on. That's how progress is made in politics, incrementally.

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04-24-2009 10:16 PM  9 years agoPost 98
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At this point you have one side saying NO to gay marriage.
The other side YES to gay marriage.

Neither side wants the others views shoved down their throats. Meet in the middle, call it a civil union. Get the insurance and tax breaks including divorce and alimony that go along with it. And everyone be happy the were actually able to resolve a dispute by meeting in the middle. Problem solved

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04-24-2009 10:19 PM  9 years agoPost 99
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Marriage for most is defined by the Bible.
And? The Bible isn't a dictionary, or a law book.
I find it strange how some can claim to be gay AND believe in God. The bible says homosexuality is bad. So how can someone claim to be both gay and a Christian? How can a Christian who believes that "X" happened cause it is written in the Bible ignore what the same book says about "Y"?
Maybe they do the selective reading like a lot of christians do.
They would get MUCH more support instead of being in a pissing match.
So they should just be happy they have a water fountain and seats on the bus right?
Maybe in your mind John.
No Dennis, in reality.

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04-24-2009 10:20 PM  9 years agoPost 100
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And? The Bible isn't a dictionary, or a law book.
No it isnt. But enough people believe in what the Bible says to devote their lives to its "teachings". In fact the majority of people believe in it.

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