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04-21-2009 07:23 AM  9 years agoPost 1
Duckster

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hi all 3D flyer what do u do in routine to make a smooth transition from one manuevere to the other manuevere.

set ur routine ...... just need some advice

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04-21-2009 09:28 AM  9 years agoPost 2
JAGNZ

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Watch pro videos and copy their transitions. Then practice a routine and ingrain it into your head. You must be able to fly in all orientations to be able to have truly fluid transitions. I am not there yet myself but working on it...


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04-22-2009 02:16 AM  9 years agoPost 3
holzback

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really just practicing, then it will start to become natural. when someone plays the guitar, they have played so many scales and practiced so much , they just know what to play without thinking about it. without thinking of what manuver to do next, you should just be able to transition into somthing that you know will work.

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04-22-2009 02:26 AM  9 years agoPost 4
fenderstrat

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thats a great analogy as I have been playing guitar for 25 years and teaching for about 18 or so of that and there are TONS of parallels between music and helis

there are no short cuts practice is the sure fire way

good smart practicing is the key

a great guitarist with a POS guitar sounds better than a bad guitarist with great equipment(ie you cant buy your skills)

there are many more

dont practice till you get it right,practice till you cant get it wrong

once it becomes second nature it will flow smoothly and naturaly

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04-22-2009 12:50 PM  9 years agoPost 5
cudaboy_71

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dont practice till you get it right,practice till you cant get it wrong
+1

so true

if it ain't broke, break it.

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04-22-2009 01:46 PM  9 years agoPost 6
red_z06

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Transition (as you all know) is how you connect one maneuver to the next. One of the most used transition is "Snake". In 3d, less predictable in conventional sense looks and presents better.

To learn this, you must first be able to execute upright and inverted flight.

1. Learn to fly level circuit both left and right.
2. Learn to fly inverted level circuit both left and right.
3. Learn to fly connect two circuits with transition in front of you.
* I said two circuits instead of fig 8 for a reason.
4. If done correctly, it should look like two circle from the top touching at the intersection right in front of you.
5. The normal transition is that, after making the left circle (CCW), you roll right to start the right circle (cw). At center, the heli is basically level.

6. To do snake transition, after completing the left circle (ccw) you roll left more as if you are diving in. You then start to apply negative pitch and start the right circuit inverted.
7. The snake transition, at center, the heli is in knife-edge where as the normal transition is in level.

As you get better, you will start the transition at about 1/4 turn before the actual intersection and end at 1/4 turn after it. This way, the snake fig 8 maneuver looks continuous with no seams.

Once you learn this transition, you can apply it to Snake funnel 8, Hurricane fig 8, Snake (bunch of half circles alternating upright and inverted with transition at the center of runway), and pirouetting snake funnel fig 8 where the transition actually is a loose piro-flip.

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04-22-2009 02:00 PM  9 years agoPost 7
S.Dykes

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I find that a half piro flip(or tight half piro loop) is a good transition move between maneuvers. Looks cool too...

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04-22-2009 02:10 PM  9 years agoPost 8
tbosco

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Interesting comparison to playing guitar. I'm new at helis but an old timer on guitar, and I make that comparison all the time with old heli flyers.
Right now my best transition is from air to ground!! LOL

Cheers!

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04-22-2009 02:17 PM  9 years agoPost 9
Flying Brian

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Alot of people will say, your job type, or other, has nothing to do with flying a helicopter, and I beg to differe as well. I believe my line of work has much to do with the basic skills of RC Helicopters

"I just don't Listen" "

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