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04-21-2009 03:04 AM  10 years ago
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karlinkelly

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Modular Helis?
It seems a lot of people in this hobby like components of different helis for different reasons whether it be flying characteristics, quality, durability, even appearance. People dislike some components for some of the very same criteria. I've seen guys that replace most of a complete kit, and many times produce what's barely, or not even, recognizable from the original model. I understand its possible to build a heli now buying components piecemeal, but it certainly isn't practical and it may not be possible to put all your favorite components into one bird without some very creative engineering. It would seem to me that some sizing and interchangeability standards could be set allowing manufacturers to focus on one or more components tailored to a particular market/preference. This is already done now with accessories - engines, servos, blades etc... but, what about major airframe components such as frames, tail booms, rotor heads, etc??? This wishful thinking of standards would make it a lot easier for your LHS to carry replacement parts that would fit your heli even it wasn't your favorite brand X but would get you flying quicker after a crash. I don't know about everyone else, but I would certainly consider buying modular if it could be made standards-based, even if it costs a bit more. Thoughts?
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04-21-2009 03:34 AM  10 years ago
rccarguy

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To a certain degree you can do it yourself, good example, my Raptor 50 Titan with Trex 600N rotor head and tail hub, it's a bolt on swap...

Not that Align ever intended this to be possible, it just turns out that two 50 size heli's are dimensionally close enough that it works. Aftermarket manufacturers do this all the time, Kasama, G Force, and others each make essentially the same high performance rotor head tailored to fit different models.

I doubt that any major manufacturer would ever conform to standards for anything other than things they don't usually make like engines, blades, and electronics, it would cut into their parts revenue too deeply if you could freely swap airframe parts from whatever the LHS had on hand into one of their kits.

That said, a little creative engineering goes a long way, I'm known in the local club as the guy that builds Frankenheli's, I have only a couple of heli's that have 100 % original, as the manufacturer intended, parts. Here's another, an XCell Fury with a BME G90 gas engine that took a bit of fabrication to get setup in the frame...

...or how about a 450 nitro with a much larger engine than stock...

So I guess what I'm trying to say is almost anything is possible given the tools and will to do it and the aftermarket will fill in the where the major manufacturers aren't interested. Otherwise measure parts and use your own creativity to figure out what works as replacements, you'd be surprised at how much can be swapped between different helis as is.
XCell Spectra G
Radikal G20
Some obsolete nitro helis too...
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04-21-2009 04:52 AM  10 years ago
karlinkelly

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Those mods are great and are definately on the same lines I was thinking. I think we, as consumers, should push for more standards in heli manufacturing. I think this could be a revolution that could actually start with one or more manufacturers offering modular designs in their own heli line and selling "configurable" kits. Its not going to happen overnight, but it sure would be great, IMO.
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04-21-2009 12:45 PM  10 years ago
predatorman

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I reckon that a turbine option would be pretty cool. Some helis look a little 'awkward' with turbines installed and others like the Predator look like they were made for them.

I have had to graft items together to get flying again. A while back my Hawk was downfor the sake of tail rotor parts....a good rummage around and some work saw my old Nexus tail unit on the Hawk....worked perfectly well.
Quality takes........time!
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04-22-2009 01:08 AM  10 years ago
trackemdown

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Get yourself and original shuttle, you'll learn what the term "cross reference", and, "will this work", is all aboutGrabbem-n-baggem
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04-22-2009 01:29 AM  10 years ago
m.m flyer

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ha
would like said nice clear pix good job
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