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04-05-2009 11:42 PM  9 years agoPost 1
choppermann

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I just put the align 610 on the cyclic. I have my mixing set to 60 percent for all 3 settings. I noticed my buddies were set to 65 percent. If i bump mine up to 65 percent will i get more thrown out of the servos and if so will i have to change my 90's

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04-06-2009 01:23 AM  9 years agoPost 2
baddynergy

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The swash numbers IE 60-65 whatever, is total throw. It will not change your 0 pitch setting.
Yes if you go up on that number, you will get more pitch, same goes for the Ail and ELE numbers.

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04-06-2009 01:24 AM  9 years agoPost 3
gftazz

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Bumping up the swash mix collective throw will give you more top and bottom pitch lowering will lower the over all pitch. Raising the ele and ail giving more cyclic throw if those are the ones being raised. His pitch may be 1-2 degrees on the top and bottom more than yours is is all having the higher number programed in his radio.

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04-06-2009 01:47 AM  9 years agoPost 4
choppermann

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so if i switch all 3 numbers to 65 percent i will get more thrown. does that mean faster flips and rolls? and if i do switch from 60 to 65 percent my everything eles will be fine no other adjustments. thanks for all ur help i want to get the most out of these servos

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04-06-2009 01:57 AM  9 years agoPost 5
baddynergy

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Yes, it will increase the rates on flip and roll. But dont just blindly raise the values. What I do, is set pitch for 14 deg, then adjust Ele and Ail for max throw without binding. I can get 8deh on cyclic with 14on pitch. Check all adjustment with a pitch gauge for all functions.

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04-06-2009 01:59 AM  9 years agoPost 6
choppermann

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sweet thanks for all the help

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04-06-2009 02:44 AM  9 years agoPost 7
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Bumping up the swash mix collective throw will give you more top and bottom pitch lowering will lower the over all pitch. Raising the ele and ail giving more cyclic throw if those are the ones being raised
+1. And... sometimes you will have to make a compromise of loosing a little bit of pitch to gain more cyclic control otherwise, you'll get some seriouse binding if you have too much of both.


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04-06-2009 02:54 AM  9 years agoPost 8
choppermann

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i just checked and if i move them any farther than 60 percent the washout pins hit the top of the swash at full throttle while giving it full turn to the right or left, should i go below 60 percent or tone down the pitch then adjust that percents? thanks

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04-06-2009 02:54 AM  9 years agoPost 9
Blackhawk6

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+1 for the more throw! Yessir!

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04-06-2009 03:03 AM  9 years agoPost 10
baddynergy

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i just checked and if i move them any farther than 60 percent the washout pins hit the top of the swash at full throttle while giving it full turn to the right or left, should i go below 60 percent or tone down the pitch then adjust that percents? thanks
How much cyclic throw are you getting?? 8deg is plenty. If you are getting that its time for paddles and or blades. For blazing fast cyclics IMHO you cant beat Radix600sb or rotortech 610s woth radix superstub paddles.

BTW I have the quick uk swash, which allows a little bit more cyclic and pitch throws.

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04-06-2009 04:14 AM  9 years agoPost 11
choppermann

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i have to check what degree of pitch i have i have radix 600 and the align carbon fiber paddles. If i adjust the pitch will the swash plate stop hitting those pins. or is it in that in my mixing percents. Im not sure but i don't believe my old servos hit the swash..

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04-08-2009 03:22 AM  9 years agoPost 12
choppermann

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all my pins were good i had to turn down my atv from 100 percent to about 90 percent will i notice a difference in flight? someone told me cause i have the upgraded align swash that it is thicker than the stock swash and that's why the pins hit and to bump down from 100 percent to correct the problem,

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04-08-2009 03:52 AM  9 years agoPost 13
VANHELI

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all my pins were good i had to turn down my atv from 100 percent to about 90 percent will i notice a difference in flight? someone told me cause i have the upgraded align swash that it is thicker than the stock swash and that's why the pins hit and to bump down from 100 percent to correct the problem
You should use the swash mix to make that adjustment. If you used your atv to adjust you would need to make an adjustment to all 3 cyclic servos and then your +/- collective would not be the same.

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04-08-2009 05:07 AM  9 years agoPost 14
dkshema

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If you really want to take the time to understand what those "60" or "65" numbers DO in your SWASH MIX or SWASH AFR menu, and WHEN you should mess around with the ATV/Endpoint settings in a CCPM setup...take the time to read my very long post here:

http://www.runryder.com/t495040p1/

I believe it's the 18th post down from the top, on the first page.

It will explain WHAT those numbers DO, when you should screw around with them.

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