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04-03-2009 12:14 PM  9 years agoPost 1
minan

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A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama’s upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama’s numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai'i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.

Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawaii gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama’s birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers printed an identical list of birth announcements supplied to them by the Hawaii State Department of Health. Conspiracists have made much of the fact that the Territory of Hawaii gave a phony birth certificate in 1904 to Chinese republican leader Sun Yat Sen for diplomatic reasons. But the modern State of Hawaii has never supplied Certification of Live Birth indicating US birth for foreign-born children.

By refusing media requests for a look at the actual paper birth certificate, Obama’s campaign gave sly backhanded assistance to the forgery hype. The internet release of the birth certificate via hyper-partisan website Daily Kos on June 12 before posting it on a campaign website was likely calculated to fuel the frenzy. This is Obama’s Gramscian strategy designed to redirect the opposition down a blind alley. It was so successful that Hawai'i government offices found themselves inundated with telephone calls from mainland voters in the days before the November 4 election.

Since Hawai'i law forbids the release of birth certificates to anybody not authorized by Barack Obama or his family, Obama further feeds the paranoia by choosing not to grant such permissions. A World Net Daily story claiming Hawai'i’s Republican Governor Linda Lingle ‘sealed’ the birth certificate is totally false. The governor’s office has asked for a retraction. The forgery story was also boosted by video claims that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother, stated that Obama “is a son of this village”—a phrase which can have many different meanings.

For Obama to have been born in Kenya, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. would have had to fly from Honolulu to Mombasa, give birth in a substandard third world hospital, fly back and then somehow arrange for a fraudulent birth certificate to be entered by the State of Hawai'i on August 8, 1961 (at the time governed by Republican William Quinn). They would have also somehow planted the phony birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser (at the time edited by Republican Thurston Twigg-Smith) and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Hawai'i’s current Republican Governor Linda Lingle would also have to be complicit in the cover-up as would all of the leftist 1960s University of Hawaii friends of Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr—among them US Rep Neil Abercrombie.

In 1961, the roundtrip flight to Kenya would have been a very expensive, pointless, and time consuming epic journey for two starving students. Barack Obama Sr. had only been able to come study at UH Manoa with a free ticket on a donated charter flight with other Kenyan students.

Obama benefits from creating an opposition which seems to be standing by the side of the road impotently pointing to a piece of paper as if it could stop 63 million voters from anointing their ‘chosen one’. Birth certificate lawsuit plaintiff Phil Berg is a Democrat and whether he understands it or not, he has done great work on behalf of his party.

It is time for folks to stop being played by the Obama campaign and drop this counter productive ‘phony birth certificate’ nonsense. Obama opponents can find plenty of real material by focusing on the hard-left alliances, stated positions, personnel appointments and policy actions of the Obama administration and of the Democrat-controlled Congress.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Article...E6-3375428AD0D7

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04-03-2009 02:05 PM  9 years agoPost 2
diegoconsafos

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OK, let's just focus on things that PROVE the man can't be trusted.
I'll start:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10...bama/index.html

This is just the tip of the iceberg...more to come

P.S. "a piece of paper as if it could stop 63 million voters"; there's another piece of paper that was created that founded this country that Obama wants to disregard. It's called
THE CONSTITUTION.

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04-03-2009 02:31 PM  9 years agoPost 3
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OK, let's just focus on things that PROVE the man can't be trusted.
I'll start:
diego, do you honestly believe there is ANY politician that you can truly trust? If you do, you're kidding yourself.

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04-03-2009 04:22 PM  9 years agoPost 4
derek533

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do you honestly believe there is ANY politician that you can truly trust? If you do, you're kidding yourself.
+1

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04-03-2009 05:13 PM  9 years agoPost 5
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+1 for the platitude

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04-03-2009 06:13 PM  9 years agoPost 6
JohnLund

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Oh yippy, and opinion piece from an internet "magazine", alright, well that settles it

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04-03-2009 07:49 PM  9 years agoPost 7
TrexRookie

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gotta love the conspiracy theories... why doesn't someone just accuse him of flying around in a flying saucer found at Roswell, NM and using Martian mind control technology to win the election?

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04-03-2009 08:06 PM  9 years agoPost 8
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gotta love the conspiracy theories... why doesn't someone just accuse him of flying around in a flying saucer found at Roswell, NM and using Martian mind control technology to win the election?
Your not far off the mark on this one as he has been orbiting Ur-anus
and has impacted deeply within

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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04-04-2009 04:26 AM  9 years agoPost 9
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an expected response from the far right.

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04-04-2009 06:39 AM  9 years agoPost 10
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"diego, do you honestly believe there is ANY politician that you can truly trust? If you do, you're kidding yourself.
Brian James"

Your post admits that Obama can't be trusted. Thank you.
It is worthy of noting that you make excuses for the man, but you do not deny his dishonesty.

TrexRookie,
I have provided evidence that he can't be trusted. Here is more.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index....ew&pageId=91286

You can accuse me of being irrational and conspiritorial all you want. However, you cannot deny the evidence that is before you.
I triple-dog dare you.

Diego

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04-04-2009 09:01 AM  9 years agoPost 11
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I have provided evidence that he can't be trusted. Here is more.
First off, the title of this thread is "Barack Obama: Born in Hawaii"... Secondly, where did I say that he could be trusted? No, Obama can't be trusted. NO POLITICIAN CAN BE TRUSTED at this juncture in American history. There hasn't been a trustworthy politician in American politics in a long time, aside from possibly Ron Paul. I don't deny that Obama is likely as dishonest as any other politician. However I am sick and tired of people trying to disprove that he is, in fact, American-born.

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04-04-2009 09:31 AM  9 years agoPost 12
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Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawaii gets from the State Department of Health.
This is a common misconception. BO's birth certificate has never been posted, ever. What was posted was a "certificate of live birth". Not the same thing. A cert of live birth is issued in place of a birth certificate to naturalized aliens. just the fact that BO has a cert of live birth is worthy of serious questions. Only naturalized aliens in Hawaii are issued them. The freedom of information act should be enforced and the document should be produced to end the deception once and for all. If BO is in fact a fraud then the constitution must be upheld, and he must be removed from office and punnished accordingly for his crimes.

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04-04-2009 09:36 AM  9 years agoPost 13
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To me it makes no sense why he wouldn't. Seriously, IF he has a real one, than it would take the hot air out of a lot of his critics sails, or maybe that's the point...if he refuses, he can have his loyalist can play up the crazy conspiracy crap, and divert more attention from the real issues. Keeping people distracted with trivial dribble is the only way to keep the mob from realizing he is destroying the country.

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04-04-2009 09:41 AM  9 years agoPost 14
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Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawaii gets from the State Department of Health.

This is a common misconception. BO's birth certificate has never been posted, ever. What was posted was a "certificate of live birth". Not the same thing. A cert of live birth is issued in place of a birth certificate to naturalized aliens. just the fact that BO has a cert of live birth is worthy of serious questions. Only naturalized aliens in Hawaii are issued them. The freedom of information act should be enforced and the document should be produced to end the deception once and for all.If BO is in fact a fraud then the constitution must be upheld and he must be removed from office and punnished accordingly for his crimes.
Where do you get your information from? Everyone that is born in Hawaii gets the same Certificate of Live Birth if they need another birth certificate. This is a certified duplicate of a birth certificate. Everyone born in Hawaii will get a real birth certificate, but they will not issue an extra one to you even if you were born in Hawaii. You only get the birth certificate after you are born. I lost my birth certificate 20 years ago so I had to get a Certificate of Live Birth just like the one BO has.

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04-04-2009 09:47 AM  9 years agoPost 15
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^^^^thanks you prove the point exactly. No doctor listed at all on a cert of live birth. As I stated that is not a birth certificate. you cant even get a passport with that.

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04-04-2009 09:51 AM  9 years agoPost 16
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^^^^thanks you prove the point exactly. No doctor listed at all on a cert of live birth. As I stated that is not a birth certificate. you cant even get a passport with that.
You can get a passport with this, I got mine with this because I lost my birth certificate 20 years ago. This is issued by the State of Hawaii and they don't need to know who your doctor was at birth. If your statement were true 80% of the people in the USA wouldn't be able to get a passport because most people I know don't have their original one anymore.

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04-04-2009 09:56 AM  9 years agoPost 17
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Saint728,

Are you aware that an alien comming into the US is issued one of those just as if he or she were born here?

A doctor that delivered the child isnt listed for good reason. He wasnt present durring the delivery in the case of an alien child.

To stay on point here, the issue that I raised was that his birth cert was never posted. You so kindly posted a cert of live birth. That is all that anybody has seen to date.

That isnt good enough...

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04-04-2009 10:02 AM  9 years agoPost 18
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You can get a passport with this, I got mine with this because I lost my birth certificate 20 years ago. This is issued by the State of Hawaii and they don't need to know who your doctor was at birth. If your statement were true 80% of the people in the USA wouldn't be able to get a passport because most people I know don't have their original one anymore
I lost mine and was sent a cert as well, and I was told that It had to be an original with the doctors name on it, not a cert of live birth. Till I produced the correct document my passport was not issued. It appears that Hawaii does not hold the same standard that the rest of the country does with regard to naturalized aliens. This is all the more reason for us to have documented proof beyond something that is undisputedly easily issued to aliens.

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04-04-2009 10:05 AM  9 years agoPost 19
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mchammer
news flash for you... saint728 LIVES IN HAWAII AND HAS BEEN ISSUED A PASSPORT BY USE OF HIS CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. IF YOU LOSE YOUR ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, THEY HAVE YOUR RECORDS ON FILE, WHICH IS HOW THEY ISSUE THE CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, HOWEVER THEY DO NOT ISSUE A SECOND FULL-LENGTH BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

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04-04-2009 10:13 AM  9 years agoPost 20
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from Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaiian Department of Health, who issued a statement, "I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Pay close attention here guys. This is a direct quote frome the people that supposedly have the real birth certificate under lock and key.

Your argument of "He lost the original" is plain bull by their own admission they have the original.

We want to see it, not the cert of live birth.

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