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04-04-2009 04:33 PM  9 years agoPost 21
copperclad

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hi marco

the pico is setup to be a normally open set of contacts ( perfect for EI ), you can switch it to normally closed by removing the shrink wrap and cutting a single trace , and then soldering in a jumper

if you have a magneto engine , and don't like to solder , it is probably easier for most people , to just buy another brand , look into some of the other suppliers and see if they fit your needs

if i remember correctly the rckillswitch does the auto kill on both lose of power and lose of signal and is configured for mageto engines , HTH

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04-04-2009 05:18 PM  9 years agoPost 22
AceBird

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some feel the remote kill is just one more system to go bad , others would never operate a gas heli without one
I believe the AMA requirement for planks is a hard wired kill switch which can be a spark ground. It doesn't require it to be radio controlled.

Ace
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04-04-2009 05:50 PM  9 years agoPost 23
TaleGunner

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I believe the AMA requirement for planks is a hard wired kill switch which can be a spark ground. It doesn't require it to be radio controlled.
You are correct but gas helis have no such requirement YET! That's what they are proposing. And now that there are TX activated and auto kill units available they will visit this as well.

Again EVERYBODY WHO HAS PMed me about this: I didn't say this WAS going to happen! I said I was asked by my local rep if a kill switch could have kept me from getting hurt and I said yes. We then had a discussion about how many pilots were at IRCHA and that the kill switch thing had been brought up because of some hot starts, run aways and a few chicken dances. It was then brought up (not by me) that gas helis don't have the same kill switch requirements as planks.
I was then told that this will be discussed at the next AMA rules thing. I have nothing to do with this and was just passing on the info I had received to fellow members.

With me I had never given a kill switch a thought until the failure I had and came close to serious injury.

The whole point of this thread was to find a way to run both the GV-1 and a remote kill switch on a X9303 and we now have it working.

Thanks To All who helped get this working my only regret is I have to learn a new switch position.

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
Spectra-G, Ion X-2

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04-04-2009 07:47 PM  9 years agoPost 24
copperclad

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Hi TaleGunner

i used to have my gear switch run my gyro also , and then last year i switched over to the ( rudd d/r ) , i had to put a piece of tape on my 9303 to remind myself where the switch was , long story short , i ended up changing all my machines over to gyro on the rudd d/r switch and am used to it now , of coarse i still have the piece of tape to remind me

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04-04-2009 08:58 PM  9 years agoPost 25
AceBird

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You are correct but gas helis have no such requirement YET! That's what they are proposing.
It is not necessary because if a heli were to start on its own at idle nothing would happen. When you store your heli at the field the throttle should be down to idle.

Ace
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04-04-2009 09:31 PM  9 years agoPost 26
TaleGunner

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Copperclad

I think your right I will need to switch all my helis to the new setup so as too not cause confusion. Great Idea, I will try the tape thing Thanks

AceBird

I guess you don't get what the real problem is. a servo failure. a linkage pops off. a carborator losses its butterfly flap. I could come up with a hundred possible reasons why a heli could run away. And I have herd your argument that a properly setup heli wont do these things. BUT you know what S@@T HAPPENS! parts break, and in that rare occasion a kill switch might just help.

I didn't even know there were kill switches available before my accident. And I can assure you it wasn't from poor building skills or bad equipment everything was new and assembled properly, it was just one of those things.

Let it go, if you don't want a kill switch you don't have to have one.
This is not what this tread was about.

It was about those of us do want one and how to set it up along with a GV-1 and passing along some hearsay info. Trust me I wont do it again. pass along hearsay info again that is

I didn't want to start a kill switch debate

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
Spectra-G, Ion X-2

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05-12-2009 05:25 PM  9 years agoPost 27
pgkevet

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Another DIY killswitch

I've just been playing around with a turnigy remote switch through a micro-relay and it does what it says on the tin.

remote switch

6v relay

This particular relay has choices of normally open or normally closed depending on solder legs selected and I powered across the relay with a second rx line to give the turnigy a common earth (you could y-lead too or take another flightpack power line).

It certainly works on the bench. I also had play using a separate lipo battery directly on the remote switch to power a strip of leds and it does than nicely too. There are jumper options for failsafe responses if wanted.

I'm only reporting this because it's a neat idea and dirt cheap. For security it's probably wise to bond the jumper selection and I'll also bond the soldered/shrunk wires to the relay wih hotmelt or epoxy in the final inception.

pgk

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05-12-2009 09:53 PM  9 years agoPost 28
Makaro

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Folks,

Thank you all very much for your help with the Pico Kill Switch and GV-1 installation on an X9303!

Here is what I had to do to complete both installations beside reading what have been posted on this Forum:
(1) I had to get a friend to modify the Pico Kill Switch.
(2) I had to give up the Stator Gator slot and Gyro's Gear switch for the Pico switch...Now I can kill the engine with the Gear switch.
(3) For the GV-1 installation, I had to install the sensor near the base of the engine tp pick up the magnetic field and I am using the stick position to activate the GV-1...The Gator is out for now.
(4) And finally on the transmitter, I had to activated everything to on in "Flight Mode"...No switching between HH/Rate for Gyro, currently in HH mode only.

I know this is not an optimum setup; therefore, I am seeking for your guidance.

Again, thank you so much everyone for making the installation possible!

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