RunRyder RC
WATCH
 4 pages [ <<    <     1      2     ( 3 )     4     NEXT    >> ] 3149 views POST REPLY
HomeAircraftHelicopterHelicopter Main Discussion › Best charger?
04-03-2009 10:27 PM  9 years agoPost 41
Richardmid1

rrProfessor

Leeds, England

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

icharger 106B+, 250W, built in balancer, very small, $120, job done!

60% of the time, it works every time!

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-03-2009 11:14 PM  9 years agoPost 42
Flying Tivo

rrKey Veteran

Monterrey,NL,Mexico

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Hyperion Duo II
Nobody has mentioned that the Hyperion can use a 28V power supply,
it puts less strain on the charger and runs cooler.
On ebay a 24V power supply with 15A runs around 40-60 dlls range.

This is the one im getting soon!! Ive seen it for around 250 dlls on ebay.

Felipe

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 12:35 AM  9 years agoPost 43
Flying Tivo

rrKey Veteran

Monterrey,NL,Mexico

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

My mistake
Power supply 28V 350W 13A for 40 USD!

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 01:15 AM  9 years agoPost 44
fenderstrat

rrProfessor

Aston,Pa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

will 13A be enough to charge bigger batts on the hyperion?

Compass helis Support Team
PerformancePlusRC field rep
Mini Titan/SE
TEAM KBDD

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 01:20 AM  9 years agoPost 45
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

if you are planning on charging 2 6s batteries at the same time on your hyperion,you are going to need a LOT more than 13A

13A is the minimum you will need for charging 2 3s batts at 2C
Charge rate has little to do with the number of cells you're charging. It's all about the rate at which you charge them.

The DUO can easily change 2 6S packs with a 13A power supply, however, it might take a long time....

  

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 01:27 AM  9 years agoPost 46
fenderstrat

rrProfessor

Aston,Pa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

right I understand that completely,but what is the point of buying a 300 dollar charger to charge your batts at .5C

even charging a 6s 2500mah battery at 1C draws about 7-8 amps on my set up.so with 13A you cant do 2 6s batteries at 1C.charging 2 3s 2200mah batts at 2C draws about 11-12 amps

one of the main selling points of the hyperion is being able to charge 2 6s batts at the same time,right.?well you are going to need a power supply that can deliver that

Compass helis Support Team
PerformancePlusRC field rep
Mini Titan/SE
TEAM KBDD

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 02:00 AM  9 years agoPost 47
Flying Tivo

rrKey Veteran

Monterrey,NL,Mexico

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Watts=Amps x Voltage
Watts is the key!

For a 12v power supply you need 30 amps to give you 360 Watts.
For a 28V Power supply you need 13 amps to give you 364 Watts.

The Hyperion duo II can charge up to 180 watts per output for a total of 360 Watts.

Thats what i meant by saying that the Duo can handle 28V input. So the power supply i posted is exact match for the charger. If the charger specs do not fullfill your needs you can pass on it.

You can charge 2 6S 3300mAh at 2C (3.3 x 2 =6.6A)x 2 outputs(146Wx 2) = 300Watts total.

Felipe

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 02:03 AM  9 years agoPost 48
fenderstrat

rrProfessor

Aston,Pa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

aahh,I forgot about the 28V thing,my bad.that is a nice feature.I had 12V on the brain

I was just checking the spec,what is the adjustment range on the V on that PS anywhere from 0 to 28?

Compass helis Support Team
PerformancePlusRC field rep
Mini Titan/SE
TEAM KBDD

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 03:16 AM  9 years agoPost 49
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

This is another reason why the TP-1010C is a great charger. It can reach its full rated power output with a 12V input which is something the Cellpro 10S and the Hyperion Duo cannot do. Try getting 15V out from a 12V battery at the field.

Sure you could run two 12V batteries or generator, but if don't have to, why bother.

  

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 06:54 AM  9 years agoPost 50
Flying Tivo

rrKey Veteran

Monterrey,NL,Mexico

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Back to school
Ace:

You really need to go back to school. Im an MD and can fully understand electricity. Since im not in the mood to teach, i will
just tell you that the Hyperion duo can charge both 6S packs with a 12V input, and for that matter it can even do it with 11V.

Felipe

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 07:02 AM  9 years agoPost 51
TJinGuy

rrProfessor

Socorro, NM - USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

The Cellpro 10S can still output more watts than the TP1010 on 12V, so what's your point?

- Chris

Team New Mexico
TJinTech

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 07:58 AM  9 years agoPost 52
fenderstrat

rrProfessor

Aston,Pa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

You really need to go back to school. Im an MD and can fully understand electricity. Since im not in the mood to teach, i will
just tell you that the Hyperion duo can charge both 6S packs with a 12V input, and for that matter it can even do it with 11V.

Felipe
besides being rude,you are mising his point,his point is on 12V the charger will not make full output power which will limit the charging amps

Compass helis Support Team
PerformancePlusRC field rep
Mini Titan/SE
TEAM KBDD

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 01:15 PM  9 years agoPost 53
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

You really need to go back to school. Im an MD and can fully understand electricity. Since im not in the mood to teach, i will
just tell you that the Hyperion duo can charge both 6S packs with a 12V input, and for that matter it can even do it with 11V.
Perhaps if your ego wasn't so big you might actually learn something here. Despite bragging about being an MD (which only highlights your arrogance), your post clearly shows you have no clue what the difference is between watts, voltage, and current.

Now, if you actually read the Hyperion Duo manual you would learn that it states the following:

"When charging high voltage batteries at high current (charger output 360W) the AC/DC Power Supply (PS) should be 15V minimum".

More proof that reading is fundamental.

  

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 01:27 PM  9 years agoPost 54
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

The Cellpro 10S can still output more watts than the TP1010 on 12V, so what's your point?
My point is you're completely wrong.

The TP-1010C can output 210W out with as little as a 10.5v input.

The Cellpro 10S needs a 12.2v input just to do 160W out and 14.4v for 180W out and once the charger starts hearing up the power starts dropping.

Now, you're not going to see this when charging a 3S 2100mAh pack. However, for those looking to extract the most power (Watts) from their charger it will make a difference.

  

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 05:08 PM  9 years agoPost 55
TJinGuy

rrProfessor

Socorro, NM - USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

You do know I actually own a Cellpro 10S right? I have charged a 6s pack at 10A (actually it was reporting an output of 9.5A) off a 12V power source with the Cellpro reporting 12.2V input and 23A drawn. Yup it was hot but it did just fine. Actually I think I have a pic of it during a similar charge

As you can see above the charger is outputting 211W. I am not sure if I am exceeding the specifications or not but it will do it and doesn't complain.

- Chris

Team New Mexico
TJinTech

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 05:14 PM  9 years agoPost 56
JetFire

rrKey Veteran

The Golden STATE

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

HYPERION EOS0606I AC/DC BALANCE CHARGER 6S/6A 50W
My vote is with 'Anthony'. I use the same one and very happy with it.


Trex700N Pro
DX8-2.4
Spartan/BL9088

-The ONLY way you fail is when you quit.-

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 05:16 PM  9 years agoPost 57
Flying Tivo

rrKey Veteran

Monterrey,NL,Mexico

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

arrogance
Even if im arrogant, im not stupid. If the charger needs a higher voltage to charge a certain cell above 12v, then it will output more amps to compensate and elevate voltage. This will hinder performance on the charger by generating heat. Then again thats why I suggested a 28V power supply.

Felipe

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 07:36 PM  9 years agoPost 58
Sillyness

rrVeteran

Little Rock AR

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Here's the CellPro output chart from the manual. It's a tough charger. There are some extra variables that you kids aren't discussing and some that you have discussed are included in the chart. For example, the difference between the bottom 2 lines is a measure of the charger's efficiency. Kinda neat. For example, if you look at the center two bottom points:

225/278 = 80.9% efficient in the voltage up-conversion, parasite loads, etc... I doubt this chart takes into account crappy bannana jacks, poor charge leads, etc... these will all reduce output power and/or increase the required input current. Anywhere you feel heat in your leads/plugs/fuses/etc.. you are pissing away power which requires more input amps (since the PS isn't going to up the voltage to compensate).

TJinGuy's charger is working outside continuous specs (within Peak Specs) according to the chart, but the disclaimer above the chart say that output also depends on ambient temperature and internal temperature... maybe it's stayin cool as a cucumber!

I personally wouldn't use a 28V P.S. simply because my other 3 chargers can't handle it. I all run 4 high-power chargers that can do 5 big batteries at once off a single 55 Amp 13.6V supply... wanted to keep things clean and simple. If anyone is in the market I am VERY impressed with this IOTA power supply... cheap, stays COOL, and very quiet fan.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 09:13 PM  9 years agoPost 59
Ace Dude

rrProfessor

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Even if im arrogant, im not stupid.
You're entitled your own opinion.
If the charger needs a higher voltage to charge a certain cell above 12v, then it will output more amps to compensate and elevate voltage. This will hinder performance on the charger by generating heat. Then again thats why I suggested a 28V power supply.
More proof you still have no clue what you're talking about.

The point, quite simply, is that the better quality chargers can reach their maxmium rated output power with a 12v or less input while some chargers require a 15V or higher input to reach their maximum rated output. If you're using a 12V battery at the field your charger may never reach its full potential.

  

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-04-2009 11:42 PM  9 years agoPost 60
TJinGuy

rrProfessor

Socorro, NM - USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I guess I will have sell my Cellpro then as it is not a quality charger. What would you recommend as a replacement? I would like to retain most all the features of my current charger and price is not big deal but it would be nice to keep it around the $200 mark. Got an suggestions Ace?

- Chris

Team New Mexico
TJinTech

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 4 pages [ <<    <     1      2     ( 3 )     4     NEXT    >> ] 3149 views POST REPLY
HomeAircraftHelicopterHelicopter Main Discussion › Best charger?
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 13  Topic Subscribe

Wednesday, September 19 - 12:06 am - Copyright © 2000-2018 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

The RC discussion world needs to consolidate. RR is now one choice for that. Its software is cutting edge. It hosts on-topic advertising. Help RR increase traffic buy making suggestions, posting in RR's new areas (sites) and by spreading the word.

The RunRyder Difference

• Category system to allow Rep/Vendor postings.
• Classifieds with sold (hidden) category.
• Classifieds with separate view new.
• Answer PMs offsite via email reply.
• Member gallery photos with advanced scripting.
• Gallery photo viewer integrated into postings.
• Highly refined search with advanced back end.
• Hosts its own high end fast response servers.
• Hosts thousands of HD event coverage videos.
• Rewrote entire code base with latest technology.
• No off-topic (annoying) click bait advertising.
Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online