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04-01-2009 08:21 PM  9 years agoPost 1
Melnic

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Started the Rapptor .30 V1 w/ TT36 for the first time this spring yesterday. I have Byron 35% in it and yesterday I had the high end set to 2 turns from closed and flew it. It was hard to idle till it warmed up and even then I had to throttle up to just before the clutch engaged then pull the ni-starter off to keep it from stalling. That seemed rich so today I set it to 1 1/2 turns from closed. It started much better and That seemed good. Pinching the fuel line while idling showed I was not lean (at least idling). Timed my tank at about 12 minutes. At the end of the flight, I let it idle for 2 minutes more and then revv'ed up into a hover. Did not bog or anything.

Does that sound right?

Stock Tank and no header tank.

I'm fine w/ plank Nitros but I never was good at tuning a Heli engine.

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04-01-2009 11:37 PM  9 years agoPost 2
RaptorMan23

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Flight time sounds about right but your gonna kill that motor with 35%. Im guessing its 35/18 I bet too. You shouldnt need any more than 20% nitro

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04-02-2009 12:06 AM  9 years agoPost 3
tryan02

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I think I am doing a little better maybe cause the smaller engine or flying style. I am on my second gallon of byrons 30% competition fuel its got 24% synthetic oil in my OS 32. getting 15+min on a tank just coasting around in normal (hover 50% throttle). And I am running quite rich I have a little bog to it on full power climbouts. Same starting problems as you but warms up in less than 2 min. so I am not gonna bother with retuning. I can turn it in 5 clicks and she is about perfect. I do drop down to 12-15 min flying in idleup 65% throttle. But either mode the engine comes back cool as a cucumber you heard of putting your finger on the crank cover? You could put your tounge on this one it runs that cool. Last I messed with mine I ended up somewhere between 2 and 3 turns out. Seems like the key for me has been richer to get more oil through it.

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04-02-2009 02:27 AM  9 years agoPost 4
Melnic

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thx for the feedback. If anyone else has an idea if my flight times are about right or not, chime in.
My flight this morning w/ the 1 1/2 turns did not have the starting problem after I turned it in. I did indeed at the end check the case and the bearings were cool to the touch and so was the head for that matter but it was only like 50F out there anyways. I have no idea why I had 35%. I'd mix it with some 20% if I had it but I don't. My other full gallon is 30%. Back when I got this helicopter, I ran about 5 gallons of coolpower through it the first year before putting it away for several years. I think so long as I don't run it rich, it will be fine. If not, it will be my reason to get an OS
After all my high nitro is gone, I'll make the switch.
I guess I'll just keep checking my temp till it warms up.

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04-02-2009 02:47 AM  9 years agoPost 5
rccarguy

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OS 37 on Wildcat 30% flying idleup on curves, no gov, I get 12 to 14 minutes before it starts draining the header tank doing basic sport flying. Engine is tuned to the edge of being a bit lean to get the most power out of it, so your flight time sounds about right.

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04-02-2009 09:34 PM  9 years agoPost 6
Melnic

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Flew this morning and noticed that I'm at 1 3/4 , not the 1 1/2 turns like I thought. I think I'll leave it there.
12 minutes down to like 1/8 of a tank flying sport maneuvers (loops, rolls, stall turns, figure 8's.
I know I posted this once before but I have my gov at 1700. When I run at 1800 or higher I just feel like the engine is going to fly apart.
My TT e550 is running 1900 and is so smooth.

My Raptor .30 V1 motor pinion is 9T and my main gear is 86T.

It seems to fly fine for the way I fly this at 1700 though.
I've read specs on the .36 that say the practical RPM range was up to 17,000.That's 1779RPM on the main blades. I know they rate the .39 to 22,000RPM

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04-03-2009 01:42 AM  9 years agoPost 7
AaronJohnson

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I have a OS 32 on 30% and I can usually fly at least 12 minutes, and then shoot about 4-5 autos. Then the main tank is empty.

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04-03-2009 02:59 AM  9 years agoPost 8
ROGER543

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bristol ct usa

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i have a r30 v1 with os 37 with stock tt pipe with 15% coolpower i get almost 25 min with main tank and header tank. If i run 30% i get mabey 18 min with same setup

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04-03-2009 03:21 AM  9 years agoPost 9
TJinGuy

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Socorro, NM - USA

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So far my R30 with OS37 is running 12min a tank on Wildcat 15%. I have it leaned out as much as I feel I can without some proper help form an experienced pilot. I need to tach it but my guess is that the head speed is not too high as it is kinda pokey.

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04-03-2009 04:31 AM  9 years agoPost 10
turboomni

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15% nitro will enable you to lean it out over 30% nitro and your run times will be longer but with lower power. Collective Management is required.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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04-05-2009 01:10 PM  9 years agoPost 11
trackemdown

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Central ,VA

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So what is the best fuel % to run in a Raptor 30 V2? I was told that 30% was the best fuel to run.

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04-05-2009 03:25 PM  9 years agoPost 12
turboomni

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Depends on how you fly and or your budget.
If your just hovering ,with a roll ,loop etc here and there then you may not need 30% nitro. If you want longer run times then you want 15%. An OS 32 should get 15 minutes of run time on a tank. with 15%..thats aproaching a gasser in terms of time aloft! On 30% it will be shorter as you cant run it as lean without risk to the motor being damaged. If you feel you don't need all that power don't use it.
30% is easier some feel to tune compared to 15%. The little motor will run hotter on 15% than 30% ,that is normal.
I ran 15% when I started on my Raptor 30 with a Webra 36 speed motor and got 14 minutes of run time per tank. I wanted as much flight time as possible and the low cost was a plus. At the time I didn't need every last bit of power the motor could produce [which isn't a hell of alot on a 30 class motor]. I needed time aloft to work on orientation etc that didnt require max power all the time.
There are guys that fly Hyper 50 motors on 15% no problem and they are happy with it.
Hope this helps abit. Let us know what you do,,I would be inerested how it works out and your run times.
Good Luck!

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