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03-31-2009 11:11 PM  9 years agoPost 1
JR-ric

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hi all

i love my N9 and she rocks as she is now..but i just wanted to see what and how you guys made your N9 so fast in roll rates and all just the overall speed of the heli..

my setup now
8717 all
4300mah li ion pack
durilte 6v reg

and i have maxed my cyclic all the way (with out it binding ofcourse)

but what do you guy do to make you helis so fliping fast
i like my helis as fast as they can get and my vibe 50 is blazeing fast due to the super stubz.

i have the SAB paddles on the heli now...i was thinking of geting super stubz for it..but i was wondering what else you guys do?

my bird flys great but i want the speed on the heli..if thier nothing else then its fine as it is...synergy ROCKS

thx

Ricardo Maldonado
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03-31-2009 11:17 PM  9 years agoPost 2
fr8brkr

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You could try the 4mm flybar conversion -it will improve roll rates ect but may have a slight impact on tracking.

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03-31-2009 11:43 PM  9 years agoPost 3
wings19

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I have a 5mm flybar with Super Stubz and have a fast roll rate. On top of that, it still tracks like an N9 should. I am real happy with the performance of my N9 with this setup. I like fast roll and flip rates too for when I am down low smacking it around and I need a fast cyclic to change directions quickly.

Nick
If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter

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03-31-2009 11:52 PM  9 years agoPost 4
cdrking

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What engine and muffler and what head speed are you running?

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04-01-2009 01:14 AM  9 years agoPost 5
Altrex

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go flybarless
think that would be as fast as you could get aside from cranking up the headspeed

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04-01-2009 01:21 AM  9 years agoPost 6
Chuckie

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How much cyclic pitch are you running?

My N9 at +-11 was too fast with the stock 5mm rod and paddles.

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04-01-2009 01:27 AM  9 years agoPost 7
wings19

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Yeah I might add my headspeed is 1900...

Nick
If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter

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04-01-2009 02:35 AM  9 years agoPost 8
JR-ric

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my head speed is was is 1850 on idle 1 and 1950 idle 2

my cyclic range is like 10 + and -

i love flying on the deck and i love the vibe 50 speed and my N9 is gonna rock if i can get her super fast

i no this is a dumb ? but how you guys check you cyclic range to see if im doing it correctly

Ricardo Maldonado
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04-01-2009 02:36 AM  9 years agoPost 9
JR-ric

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and im running a SZ with hatori pipe also

Ricardo Maldonado
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04-01-2009 06:50 PM  9 years agoPost 10
Chuckie

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i no this is a dumb ? but how you guys check you cyclic range to see if im doing it correctly
No it’s not. With the pitch gauge on set it for zero and lock the gauge down. Then move the blade over the nose so you can measure aileron cyclic throws. Moving the blade over the side, with the flybar over the boom, will let you measure elevator cyclic.

While holding the flybar level move the tx throttle/pitch stick to mid stick. Adjust the tx pitch so that you see the gauge is level with the flybar. If the blade angle is zero when the tx is at mid stick then the gauge should show you this. If it’s off a little don't worry about it and move the tx stick a little either way to so the gauge is parallel with the flybar. Now without touching the throttle and while holding full right aileron, loosen and read the blade angle with the pitch gauge. Now hold left aileron and read the pitch. The values should be the same. If not then your zero point may be off or you moved the flybar.

To check elevator cyclic rotate the head 90 degrees so that the flybar is directly over the boom and recheck to make sure the pitch gauge is reading zero with the flybar level. Adjust the tx throttle stick if needed and then hold full back elevator and read the pitch on the blade. Repeat for down elevator.

If you are going to run +-10 cyclic also make sure you are using the long pivot balls on the seesaw and hiller side of the blade mixer, part 107-108.

Charles

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04-01-2009 07:30 PM  9 years agoPost 11
Entityofme1

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I usually use the swash as a reference first and watch for how close the inner ball gets to the main shaft and back it down to a safe distance. It's really all up to how you like your response when your flying. If it's too fast lower your swash mix rates for aeliron and elevator.

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04-01-2009 07:47 PM  9 years agoPost 12
ch-47c

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What blades are you using?

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04-02-2009 01:49 AM  9 years agoPost 13
JR-ric

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710 radix

Ricardo Maldonado
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04-02-2009 04:32 AM  9 years agoPost 14
ch-47c

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Have you tried Radix 710 Stick Bangers in place of the Standard?

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04-02-2009 05:24 AM  9 years agoPost 15
JR-ric

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no i have not

Ricardo Maldonado
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04-02-2009 12:56 PM  9 years agoPost 16
ch-47c

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I'd try the Radix 710 SB if you can before you change out everything. Chuckies notes work very well. The Std are fast enough for me, because I like the pattern airplane feel and inertia, which will slow cyclic response down. See if you can borrow a pair from someone at your field for a flight or two. If that is still not fast enough, then add the Super Stubz.

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04-02-2009 02:10 PM  9 years agoPost 17
wings19

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I run 710 SB's and I really like them on the N9. They give it nice pop and mine is definitely agile while maintaining good auto characteristics. But I think it is hard not to get a 90 to auto well since they have so much mass in the head anyway.

Nick
If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter

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04-03-2009 02:55 AM  9 years agoPost 18
Helico-pteron

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I asked the same thing recently and everybody pretty much said to raise head speed. I fly 1950, radix 690s, HZ and Super stubz with 8/8 on cyclic and it's just about as fast as my vibe 50.

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04-03-2009 06:10 AM  9 years agoPost 19
JR-ric

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now if you have to much cyclic you can slow the heli down during flips and rolls due to the fact thier more cyclic then pitch

is that correct?

Ricardo Maldonado
Team Curtis Youngblood Enterprise

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04-03-2009 08:21 AM  9 years agoPost 20
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update
Has anyone ever clocked the ff flight speed of N9,if so please post the numbers, just curious......

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