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03-31-2009 10:46 PM  9 years agoPost 21
petmotel

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Are you just looking for somthing to start out with?,the pantera is a good lil entry level machine
For what reason is a Pantera just an entry level machine? From the videos I've seen it's just as capable as any modern 3D machine. Inexpensive does not necessarily equate with cheap.

I just bought two of these birds at the sale price. I'm quite pleased with the overall design and quality of this heli. Quality of the frames, plastic, or otherwise is first rate!

Jay

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03-31-2009 11:02 PM  9 years agoPost 22
VooDooX

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but can it do this?

this is a TZ-V2 at 219$

Watch at YouTube

if so please post a video as proof thank you

Velocity 50 "99.9999999999999% of an atom is empty space." also 01001000 01001001

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03-31-2009 11:13 PM  9 years agoPost 23
Dood

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but can it do this?
Which part, the part about trolling an internet forum?
No it can't do that.

But it can do this
(So easy a 12 year old kid can do it)

Watch at YouTube

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03-31-2009 11:26 PM  9 years agoPost 24
Eury

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VooDoo, you are incredible. You desperately need to get more experience if you think that videos of a heli flying 3d have anything to do with the heli. It's 99.99% pilot and .01% heli.

Nick Crego

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03-31-2009 11:39 PM  9 years agoPost 25
tacoturbo

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Aviationjay, I just don't get you man. Whats you point? Are you implying that anything with a plastic frame is Mattel cheap? Damn, I'm pretty sure the Raptor boys wouldn't agree (I happen to be one). I don't know of any reputable manugfactuer out there that uses the same grade of toy plastic as your Ken doll or adult lego set. Come on man, be realistic. If you dislike plastic thats your joy but many of us feel that high grade "engineering Plastic" is a sound choice for heli airframes. As far as mass producing a part. What seems easier and cheaper to make, milling a flat carbon plate or making a mold for a a 3D part?

TT

I don't do 3D....no wait. Oh thats right, I can't do 3D!

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03-31-2009 11:53 PM  9 years agoPost 26
wthford

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because it's on sale... Duh.

How can I soar with the Eagles when I work with turkeys??

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04-01-2009 12:16 AM  9 years agoPost 27
concho

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a pantera frame will cost me around $65 (i lived in Canada money exchange shipping taxes custom fee etc )i have to order everything from jb i wont find pantera parts at a hobby shop
in Quebec province on the other hand a t rex 600 cf frame will be around $240

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04-01-2009 01:28 AM  9 years agoPost 28
VooDooX

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99.99% pilot and .01% heli.??? i think more then .01 its more like 80% pilot 20% heli

Velocity 50 "99.9999999999999% of an atom is empty space." also 01001000 01001001

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04-01-2009 01:46 AM  9 years agoPost 29
Eury

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God you are clueless.

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04-01-2009 01:51 AM  9 years agoPost 30
USNAviationjay

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Any current generation 3d capable heli can do that VoodooX with a talented pilot.

Just comes down to how much you want to spend and the features you want.
being that that bird is a direct copy of the fabled Vibe 50 its no wonder it does perform that well.

as for Taco..
Nope I hate with a passion plastic helis.
hell plastic anything.

It feels and looks cheap and I don't want any part of it.
I had my share of plastic helis and I tore them up.
I wont ever buy another plastic heli.

Pantera, Vision, Raptor, Trex base models, Protos without CF upgrade etc.

I replace all plastic except for links on all my helis with aluminum or CF.

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04-01-2009 02:18 AM  9 years agoPost 31
tacoturbo

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Suit yourself man. But look at your statement again, you must not find too much joy in anything you use or own. Too sad. BTW, my buddy wants to know where you get those inexpensive, unbreakable carbon T600N side frames and springback alloy parts? But in all fairness, I don't fly well enough, no, not even close to warrant CF or aluminum bits for my birds even if shiny looks pretty.

I don't do 3D....no wait. Oh thats right, I can't do 3D!

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04-01-2009 02:26 AM  9 years agoPost 32
helibro

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Im no Pro but i have seen carbon frames after a crash, most just glue and screw them back together? do they make carbon fiber glue and carbon fiber screws?

again other heli's are nice just dont see the use spending that much on carbon fiber, i know your not "supposed to crash" but i have seen enough to know if you fly, you will crash just a matter of time.

hey! were is the reset button!

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04-01-2009 02:29 AM  9 years agoPost 33
wthford

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You know what is cool is when you go in with your plastic fantastic and outfly the guy with the carbon and anodized aluminum. It's all a bunch of horse hockey man. It's the flying. That's what it's about. And, the Pantera is fully capable, and inexpensive. Give it a rest you trolls. Go back where you belong.

How can I soar with the Eagles when I work with turkeys??

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04-01-2009 02:32 AM  9 years agoPost 34
USNAviationjay

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frankly I don't care that much about cost unless its what I deem unreasonable like the last 2 JR helis released. there is a limit to anything. seriously a 1600 dollar 90? and a 700 dollar E500 airframe?

I prefer metal bits and CF or G10 frames over plastic molded stuff..
Sorry but its like a fat chick in a bikini to me.. just a total turn off.

The only plastic I do like on my helis is the KBDD tail blades.. they do rock.

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04-01-2009 02:37 AM  9 years agoPost 35
RappyTappy

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I like G-10 frames best personally myself. Cost effective, rigid if designed with proper support and best of all, easy to cut out frames. I can cut out frames all day long for like $10 a set, takes about 30 mins to complete a frameset once you get it down. Hard to describe the joy of flying stuff that is so cheap, its downright laughable when it goes in. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this hobbys so expensive its nice to save here and there, it adds up quick.

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04-01-2009 02:42 AM  9 years agoPost 36
USNAviationjay

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Now that is something I would like to learn rappy.

I'd love to be able to cut my own G10 frames.

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04-01-2009 02:43 AM  9 years agoPost 37
Heli_Man_Bob

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Helijack31
this seems like such a great deal it's too good to be true but what's wrong with the Pantera and why is it so cheap.
There's nothing wrong with this model.

This is a good deal.

The distributor has reconfigured the kit as well as cut operating cost and is passing the savings on to you in an effort to stimulate sales and get the product in front of more people.

Would you have suggested that instead of reducing the price that more money was spent on advertising even though ultimately you the consumer are paying for the advertising.

In response to Carbon vs Plastic. I like both for different reasons. They both get the job done and have earned there place in this Hobby.

The Pantera just happens to have many of its parts manufactured using engineering plastic.

I think John is just watching his cost and keeping true to his idea of making a living by offering a model that represents an honest value.

Good luck with what ever model you choose

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04-01-2009 02:49 AM  9 years agoPost 38
wthford

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You know... even at the low cost of the Pantera, I invested over 1,200 in my build. Holy crap man. It's a wonder I'm still married. If it weren't for "plastic fantastic", I would not be flying anymore. If I would have spent any more, I probably would be divorced... :| Let's face it. Cost is a factor in the hobby. That's why many aren't doing it. With the Pantera, I was able to get moved into the 50 class, an saved about 3-400 over the competition when I bought mine.

Do I want a top of the line heli some day with all the bling. Of course. I would just eventually crash it. It always happens. Don't get me wrong, I don't crash often. But, it is inevitable in this hobby. Gravity rules. The fact is, though, that I can get just as much enjoyment out of plastic. Stick your tongue out and make as much fun as you want...

I just want to fly. The Pantera is a solid flier. I bought mine because I saw a friend flying his, and it looked very solid in the air. Then I saw it up close and liked the cool features... a few not found on the competition. That said, I'm looking forward to getting to the field!

How can I soar with the Eagles when I work with turkeys??

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04-01-2009 02:54 AM  9 years agoPost 39
brown1957

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VOODOOX go to the web sight. Why go on the Pantera post and say you got a junk YS61 for sale ??????

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04-01-2009 03:09 AM  9 years agoPost 40
tacoturbo

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Because he wanted everyone to know he WAS, that is WAS going to buy a Pantera but bought the fabulous Frenzy instead. Now he has no home for that orphan .61. If I was going to do a BBC I'd go .70 or .90 anyway.

I don't do 3D....no wait. Oh thats right, I can't do 3D!

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