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03-31-2009 12:14 AM  9 years agoPost 1
Flying Brian

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Currently, I running a e325 with a set of cheapo woody blades, and the key componits on the head are metal, with the red dampeners.

I want to start leaning my heli out a bit, and get it to pop a little bit more than it does. I have been using factory defaults at 60, 60, 60, on the cyclics, and 100% on my ATV'S, with a rather fast rudder control, when needed. Im slowly dropping my expo which seems to make it respond faster, but it still is not snapping yet. Im at +10 and - 10 on my pitch controls, while running 100% across the board for my idle up.

Am I looking for more throw out of my cyclics to get the desired pop, and what pitch range will help as well?

I'm either due for a serious crash, or ready to move forward a bit, but all I know is, I want more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Thanks fellas!!

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03-31-2009 03:26 AM  9 years agoPost 2
AMainMaker

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Nappanee,IN

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I ran mine with 12.5 degrees of pitch + - and max the cyclics out till they are on the edge of binding in the corners. Do make sure you make the cyclics even with a pitch guage. They will not always be even in the CCPM mixing section of the radio. Just increasing you pitch to the 12.5 will liven everything up.
Hope this helps
Jason Harmon

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03-31-2009 04:22 AM  9 years agoPost 3
fenderstrat

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+1 on Jasons advice and I'll add get the green paddles,REALLY livens up the MT cyclic..be prepared

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03-31-2009 04:36 AM  9 years agoPost 4
DANBOONE

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Plymouth, IN 46563

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A set of good carbon blades will help and will also be easyer on your batteries.

Dan Lowry

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04-01-2009 02:39 PM  9 years agoPost 5
Flying Brian

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I understand expo pretty good, but do have questions regaurding. Do 3D pilots use expo, or do they not?

I would assume they do, but it would depend on the style 3D they was flying. Meaning, if they are stick jamming hard, I would say, why have it. But for somone just wanting to attempt loops, rolls, inverted, would still use it, but not at an overkill rate.

I like my pitch range where it is at(+10 & -10), but my elevator and alieron is very stable, meaning, I can use them in hard motions, with little response. What is the fix exactly? what am I looking for?

I have been practicing on the Simulator, and want to do stationary forward loops, stationary rolls, and that is about it. There is no way my elevator would be able to pull off a stationary loop(at high altitude) the way its set up now. It would take way to much space, and time.

So what do I need to do exactly, to get more responce out of them, just add more throw, but be carefull not to bind? Is this a simple fix?

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04-04-2009 02:08 PM  9 years agoPost 6
Raptor Rich 67

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I use only 5% expo simply because the reaction can be very lively with +10 and -10 cyclic. But remember att this does is make midstick a little deader.
You might want to try 325mm carbon blades for quicker reaction.

Heli's are like fireworks... Sometimes more goes up than comes back.

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04-04-2009 02:37 PM  9 years agoPost 7
Flying Brian

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As far as good blades, YES, I'm reverting back to the better CF blades, as my my heli was very snappy, more stable, and held it's tracking all the time. I have'nt crashed for sometime, so I think it is time to revert back to the good CF blades, with the added expense. The cheapo red & white aligns just suck cheese, and are good for nothing in my book. I am constintly chasing tracking while using them. I do agree with most, I should have waited to use the CF blades in the begining, as I broke 2, 35 dollar sets early on, but I looked good doing it....

Firstly and formost, Im going to kinda revamp my whole system, as I think Im ready for a more powerful set up. I need a strong motor, weather it be a 430xl, or scorpion 8 turn. I also would like to upate my lipos, as in my learning stages, I really hurt my batterys, so they need an update as well. I'm half way there, as Im running a 45 amp scorpion commander esc, which is top notch. Im also going to continue to upgrade the heli, making it as lite as possible, meaning, replacing the metal Boom to CF boom. I want to toughing up my tail system as well, by reverting to all metal tail set up. I'm also wanting to get a smaller gyro, as this will help in weight issues, and update all at the same time. I also want to get a really good set of Tail blades, as my tail really needs to be tuned alot better. What would be cool is, if TT upgraded this machine, and made a system allowing a rudder servo to be mounted inside the frame, as there seems to be ample room all ready, and this would give the servo a direct, and straight shot to the rudder linkage, not that it dosent have this now, but you know what I mean.

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04-04-2009 02:48 PM  9 years agoPost 8
USNAviationjay

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boom mounted tail servos are better helps counter the weight of the lipo.
and can be more accurately set for mechanical trim.
If you want to liven it up you need to follow the above advice about going +12 -12 and 8* on cyclics.
then you will have all the punch and aerobatics you need.

Also highly recommend agasint CF booms.
they crack very easy and offer a negligible effect on weight.
its nothing but a "bling" upgrade.

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04-04-2009 08:26 PM  9 years agoPost 9
Flying Brian

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Oh, it's plenty livend up for me the way I have it. It's still not maxed out, but good enough for now. As far as +12 pitch, my motor wouldnt pull that, as it's completly wore out....

I'm getting the full carbon frame, Carbon Fiber boom, Scorpion 8 pole motor to match my kick ass esc, and a 4s set up, maybe. Im still contimplating the 3s 2500, vs. the 4s. The weight difference between the 2 is minimal...

As far as weight, Any corner I can cut to make it lighter, I will. I think the e325 is a tank in it's stock fourm.

As far as blades, I wonder, after all those above mods, will this system push a set of 350mm Rotor Tech main blades.....

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04-04-2009 10:10 PM  9 years agoPost 10
USNAviationjay

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again.. the MT is not a heavy 450.. and CF is not going to lighten you up much at all.

Your bird also cannot swing 350s unless you strech it.
by a good margin. especially being that the MT already has wide grips.

if you plan on doing all that you'd be better off going with a whole nother airframe. you spending cash that's not going to give results.

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04-04-2009 11:44 PM  9 years agoPost 11
Flying Brian

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The figures I have, shows the e325 is heavier, by far, compared to the T-rex 450, and that is a dry weight. Adding the full on CF e325 frame and skids, with CF boom should come in much lighter then the Align 450.

I have to disagree here, the e325 is a tank, compared to other 450's Iv'e come across. I do like the length my bird has, compared to the Align 450 though. I figure right at 1.5 inches, give or take a smidge...

Roughly, what is the difference in length of the 350mm blades in reference to the 325's?

"I just don't Listen" "

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04-05-2009 12:31 AM  9 years agoPost 12
binkyandbrain

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I know this YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT I have read allot of your posts and I really wonder if you even have a heli.Please do some research before you get on here shooting off your mouth.But yes just keep posting one day you will make RR professor you won't know anything or have anything intelligent to say but you will have that little RR professor next to your name.

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04-05-2009 12:42 AM  9 years agoPost 13
Flying Brian

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What's your deal, did you crash your heli today?

Nothing I stated here is wrong?

And to think I offerd you a free gyro, because you could'nt figure out how to set your cheapo up. And I happen to have 175 flights in, since Febuary 10, 2009. So I could care less about posts numbers, and will bet, I would I fly you on any given day. And I get that from reading your posts!!!

And just for you to know, fourms are about talking with your friends, family, and learning, so If you don't like it that I post, here is a quarter.........
I have read allot of your posts and I really wonder if you even have a heli
I bet you my heli is set up way better than yours from the sounds of it too, so go on with yourself.
But yes just keep posting one day you will make RR professor you won't know anything or have anything intelligent to say but you will have that little RR professor next to your name.
Oh, whaaaaaaa....

"I just don't Listen" "

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04-05-2009 12:52 AM  9 years agoPost 14
binkyandbrain

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Dude its simple you do not know what you are talking about.I just said what everyone else is thinking they just did not want to hurt your feelings.Now me I am just tired of seeing this stupid stuff everywhere.SO PLEASE SHUT UP TILL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I have a book its called everything you need to know about RC Helicopters send me your address I will mail it to you.

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04-05-2009 12:57 AM  9 years agoPost 15
Flying Brian

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@binkyandbrain

Did your gyro break down on you again, is this why you are so upset?

You can't even make a valid point, what don't I know, show me where I have been posting, and saying what I know, just show me, and I will shut up.

You still havent made a valid point here. In this thread, I have said nothing that is not stating fact or opinon. We are simply talking weight of the e325. Do you even have any idea how much your weighs, and don't go look it up either.

If you don't like it, go somwheres else, and I think you would have your work cut out for you, to my feelings...... But, you can keep trying, as you might get your post count up, as I think your worried about this so much...

Your Turn

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04-05-2009 01:02 AM  9 years agoPost 16
Flying Brian

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boom mounted tail servos are better helps counter the weight of the lipo.
and can be more accurately set for mechanical trim.
Hmm, did'nt know this!!

I would say they are more of a pain in the you know what to work on to, as far as adjustments. I do love a system that is all tucked away inside the frames though. Aligh 450 pro for one...

"I just don't Listen" "

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04-05-2009 04:44 AM  9 years agoPost 17
Flying Brian

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Dude its simple you do not know what you are talking about.I just said what everyone else is thinking they just did not want to hurt your feelings.Now me I am just tired of seeing this stupid stuff everywhere.SO PLEASE SHUT UP TILL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I have a book its called everything you need to know about RC Helicopters send me your address I will mail it to you.
Stay on topic binkyandbrain, and quit breaking the rr fourm rules!!

I know it's tough for some to comprehend several paragraphs on one page at a time. , binkyandbrain, try to stay on topic, and quit being a spammer.

"I just don't Listen" "

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04-05-2009 05:15 AM  9 years agoPost 18
TaleGunner

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Brian
Give him your address so he can send you the book If you don't want it I'll take it

Pinky
Brian is like 80 grit sandpaper a little course but get him wet and he gets all soft and mushy

I see a pillow fight coming on. pillows at 20 paises boys

Man that was freakin funny. I cracks me ups I need another beer please.

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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04-05-2009 05:16 AM  9 years agoPost 19
TaleGunner

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Roughly, what is the difference in length of the 350mm blades in reference to the 325's?
Roughly 25mm

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04-07-2009 09:07 PM  9 years agoPost 20
Raptor Rich 67

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McHenry, IL. USA

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Fact is the MT can 3D pretty well out of the box and its all in the setup and pilot. Mine flew inverted and funneled no problem stock but later I did add CF blades.
Upgrades will make things more accurate for a more seasoned pilot but crashing expensive parts seems less satisfying than stock parts.
Some of it is just as Quoted "Bling".

350mm would put your blades over your tail rotor blades....

Good for making Margaritas and Cole Slaw but bad for the heli.

Heli's are like fireworks... Sometimes more goes up than comes back.

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