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04-04-2009 06:13 AM  9 years agoPost 21
what_the_helli

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Then I laid a hammer across the heli skids so it wouldn't lift off, and very carefully held a sheet of paper right at the blade edges after I brought them up to speed.
WHOA....
using a friend to help would be a MUCH better idea than a hammer and a sheet of paper and your hand close to blades SPINNING.
things can get out hand FAST I promise you that. bump the bench, the transmitter, or any number of mechanical failures could happen.... you need to give these little helis some respect or they WILL TEACH you some at a most inopportune time. we have plenty of pics in the saftey section go take a look.....

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04-04-2009 05:36 PM  9 years agoPost 22
T-Rex-Flyer

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Then I laid a hammer across the heli skids so it wouldn't lift off, and very carefully held a sheet of paper right at the blade edges after I brought them up to speed.
That's great, I'll be looking forward to seeing you're name when the next Darwin Awards are presented.

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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04-04-2009 08:21 PM  9 years agoPost 23
zaw

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Also Zero out the pitch of the blade form Front of the heli by adjustign the swash linkages.

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04-04-2009 10:20 PM  9 years agoPost 24
T-Rex-Flyer

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zaw.. what?

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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04-04-2009 11:34 PM  9 years agoPost 25
zaw

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I was having trouble with my swash leveling and I notice that if I have the blade toward the front at 0pitch 0 trim, with pitch gauge on it was off.

So I adjusted a swash linkage and get that even and tracking problems went away and solved other problem of heli going all over the place.

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04-05-2009 12:36 AM  9 years agoPost 26
Flying Brian

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I think the key point is, Brand New "Mini Titan"!!

These helis are notourous for tracking issuse, untill you lean what this machine needs. Most of it is the basics of tracking, but there is a small percentage that has to do with this machines minor problems.

Starters being, the black, soft, and probly dried out head dampeners. Make sure youe spindle is well lubed, with the correct dampeners.

IMHO, Cheapo wood blades don't track well on this bird either. Really, save yourself alot of headach, and spend the 29 dollars on a cheap set of CF blades.

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04-05-2009 02:48 AM  9 years agoPost 27
Heli0228

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I had the same problem with my mini titan, the angle from the top link to the blade grip is the problem. I got a Kasama head and some carbon fiber blades and the problem went away. I must haved set the tracking 10 times, and I got tired of the problem so I spoke to a friend of mine and was told to get another head (NOT the metal head from thunder tiger you will still have the same angle problem) and the Kasama head works great and I have NEVER had a tracking problem again, the mimi titan is one of my most favorite helis now.

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04-05-2009 07:03 AM  9 years agoPost 28
Flying Brian

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I spoke to a friend of mine and was told to get another head (NOT the metal head from thunder tiger you will still have the same angle problem) and the Kasama head works great and I have NEVER had a tracking problem again,
OMG, Your really freakin me out here, as Im building a metal TT head, one link at a time over here.

But with the proper blades, and a spindle re-build every week, I have been good.(spindle re-build consists of, taking it apart, re-lubing, and checking dampeners, ten re-install with all new lube in the bearings, ect...)

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04-05-2009 02:24 PM  9 years agoPost 29
T-Rex-Flyer

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Hi Brian, maybe you should contact Mark Rider and have you name changed to "Brian Must Rebuild".

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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04-05-2009 02:36 PM  9 years agoPost 30
Flying Brian

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I know it, but Im getting alot better at not attempting every idea out there. I 've got the tinkering disease!!

Really though, I kinda had the same thinking process, as it seems all the TT metal componets seem to be the same dimensions as the plastic dimensions. But I think the fix is in the rigigtility of the metal, as there is less to NO flex in certain key areas.

It still does concern me though.............BrianMustRebuild!

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04-05-2009 03:36 PM  9 years agoPost 31
Dilbeck

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edit

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04-05-2009 04:58 PM  9 years agoPost 32
Flying Brian

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If you got somthing in your crawl, spit it out!!!!!!

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04-05-2009 05:18 PM  9 years agoPost 33
Heli0228

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Hey flying Brian you may be corect the metal head may work because the slop is gone from the plastic one, but it may be in the angle from that top link, I do not know if that is the problem, as I stated I use a kasama head, if you use the TT head let me know if the problem with tracking goes away.

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04-05-2009 05:27 PM  9 years agoPost 34
Flying Brian

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I did do the blade grip mod, if this is what your taslking about. Honestly, I believe my tracking issues went away when I added the metal washout mixing arms, and a very cheap pair of e-flight, blade 400 Carbon fiber blades. Oh, these blades are a direct fit, NO SPACERS NEEDED.

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04-05-2009 10:11 PM  9 years agoPost 35
tbosco

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LOL... Actually I found the suggestion to use colored markers and the sheet of paper for blade tracking in one of these forums. I was in my spare bedroom working on it... no buddies available. Was VERY careful... probably took me 3 minutes to get up enough nerve to get close to it.

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04-05-2009 11:03 PM  9 years agoPost 36
predatorman

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Its not wise to mess with paper and coloured crayons or whatever you were using. You are copying the full sized helis and how the tracking is done on them...well some of them are still tracked that way most likely.

They use a flag on a pole, the blade tips are coloured with contrasting colours. The heli is then run up on the ground and the flag pole is held against the ground and the flag slowly introduced to the blade tips...not a natural thing to be doing but thats the idea there....detecting which blade needs adjusting.

For the model though, its wiser to use the contrasting colours and go hover around and 'sight' the blades...you should be able to see which blade is high then.

You MUST be careful with RC helis, a Blade CX2 can hurt your fingers and face for example....so the larger models can only be worse if they make contact with you.

Quality takes........time!

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04-05-2009 11:33 PM  9 years agoPost 37
what_the_helli

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probably took me 3 minutes to get up enough nerve to get close to it.
next time listen to your instincts... there is a good reason you have them...LOL

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04-06-2009 12:22 AM  9 years agoPost 38
TaleGunner

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next time listen to your instincts... there is a good reason you have them...LOL
Was VERY careful... probably took me 3 minutes to get up enough nerve to get close to it.
This is what a 450 can do

This is what a 90 can do

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04-06-2009 01:56 AM  9 years agoPost 39
Flying Brian

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Damm Talegunner!!!!!!!

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04-06-2009 03:16 AM  9 years agoPost 40
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Sorry I couldn't resist I have been waiting to find the right place to stick those 2 images together

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