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02-03-2010 09:21 PM  8 years agoPost 221
paul999

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hi matt

that looks well nice cant wait to see it,the lights look bright to i think scale lights sets a nice scale heli of

see you soon
regards
paul

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02-03-2010 11:32 PM  8 years agoPost 222
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Just watched the clip of your scale Bell helicopter MattJen that sounds unbelievable and look so fantastic in the air. Was it windy when you flew it as it looks like it's on rails its so solid in the air. What scale is it, it is most impressive? I am just getting into scale and up to now have been very into electric, but I think turbines after seeing this is too good to ignore.

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02-04-2010 04:01 AM  8 years agoPost 223
James

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Hi Matt,

you did a great job building that beauty your bell looks and sounds fantastic thats a machine to be very proud of . Turbines really make a helicopter stand out .

Jim

flying is the easy part paying for it whole different story

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02-04-2010 02:26 PM  8 years agoPost 224
MattJen

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thanks for the commendation,

I flew it and it was very windy, it was my first experience flybar less on a hiller only head, hence the reason for the louder blade whopping..

it is a lovely model, it is 1/5 scale, and what i like is it has tail authority, and when i put in a command it responds, it doesn't run away from you.

I had some great help from bell bloke when i flew it in pod and boom format,his experience and knowledge was great in helping me get this model flying beautifully, I learn t so much off him, i do miss his posts on these forums. I have only needed to tweak a couple of points in the curve now it is in a fuse.

james,
Due to being a night baker now (6pm till 3am)i don't get anytime in the evening to post, have been watching your thread, how is that lovely scale beauty of yours coming along ?
hope you are well

Matt

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02-05-2010 01:44 AM  8 years agoPost 225
James

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quote:james,
Due to being a night baker now (6pm till 3am)i don't get anytime in the evening to post, have been watching your thread, how is that lovely scale beauty of yours coming along ?
hope you are well

Matt

Hi Matt,
good hearing from you I have two more little things i need to add to the body . Then I will be ready to apply the rivets then the blue paint is going on after that to Lock in the rivet work and with the rest of the painting process to completion. Will be posting some more picture real soon !

Jim

flying is the easy part paying for it whole different story

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02-06-2010 01:39 AM  8 years agoPost 226
helibeli

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So it's worth doing away with the flybar then in favour of a V-stab or maybe a skookum?How is hovering stability affected? same or better?Is it worth going digital flybarless from the outset on a large turbine?

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02-09-2010 09:30 PM  8 years agoPost 227
MattJen

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So it's worth doing away with the flybar then in favour of a V-stab

It depends on how far you want to go down the scale route, i wanted to try it, and it also depends on how confident you are in flying.
i would not recommend it to a new flyer.

Is it worth going digital flybarless from the outset on a large turbine?

the million $ question, personally i would say no, get used to flying a turbine first, it was funny i was talking to a friend of mine Paul999, he was talking to Richard Morris, paul is building a lovely scale ec145, and was debating whether to go down the multi blade route first, richard recommended he fly it with a 2 blade setup first, to get used to its character and to basically enjoy flying it,without having not only to learn flying a large scale model but also to try and master a multi blade head. I have seen some lovely scale models on here but the pilots seem uncomfortable flying them. which is why i would agree with that richard said.

personally i am gonna follow that advice, master flying my scale machine well with a fly bar setup and enjoy flying it, then move over to a fly bar less setup.As my time is limited at the moment.

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02-10-2010 12:30 PM  8 years agoPost 228
MattJen

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have had a go at painting my blades, they seem to have come up well,
i used primer and wet and dry to take off the shine.

they will look good on the machine.

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02-14-2010 12:49 AM  8 years agoPost 229
James

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Hi Matt,

blades look nice

flying is the easy part paying for it whole different story

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02-14-2010 09:39 AM  8 years agoPost 230
munkey nuts

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matt

are the blades semi symetrical.

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02-14-2010 11:38 AM  8 years agoPost 231
MattJen

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hi munkey nutz

no they are symmetrical tapered blades. MAH 950.

james,

thanks nice to hear from you

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02-14-2010 11:40 AM  8 years agoPost 232
munkey nuts

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can you get scale blades for it?

i only flown my benzine trainer with flat bottom blades and it is suprising how much more lift you get.

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02-14-2010 11:45 AM  8 years agoPost 233
MattJen

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yes,

you can get high lift blades, the ones they use are SAB, but i have found my current MAH blades being tapered are a lot more efficient as lift is equal along the entire blade, the only trouble i have found with semi blades is on a windy day the machine bounces a lot more and in fast forward flight the machine tends to balloon more,

as with symmetrical it is not as bad. the best scale looking blade to go for would be the metal blades, but as you know they are not liked here, and if i was to attend any fly in i would not be allowed to fly.

Matt

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02-14-2010 03:00 PM  8 years agoPost 234
munkey nuts

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which flyin would you be attending 1st this year with your bell.

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02-14-2010 05:41 PM  8 years agoPost 235
1275mini

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but you need a turbine that will stay together for for than 2 flights ! gareth

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03-03-2010 05:18 PM  8 years agoPost 236
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i have been quite on this front as life has been beusy, with my dad being rushed into hospital a couple of weeks ago, they found something on his lung, so i have been to and fro from hospital.

I have been re balancing the blades since i painted them, re marked the COG on each blade and been adding paint over a number of days on the lighter blade..it takes time doing it this way, having to wait for each coat to dry, but the job is nearly done..

i was gonna go over and see Dennis Stretton but my holiday was taken up with traveling to hospita,l hopefully in May i will get time off and go up and see him.

In the meantime i am painting in the inside of the engine cowling as per full size.. it is a kind of green colour.

Matt

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03-03-2010 08:40 PM  8 years agoPost 237
devondave

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Fanastic finish to your long ranger
Hi Matt,
I just have to say that I admire the workmanship in your long ranger.
I finished a rotortech long ranger which is going well so I know about all the long hours of work involved. I love the video I haven't found out how to put videos on the internet yet so that's my next lesson.
yu can see my longranger on my web site http://www.pinhaysfarm.co.uk
Well done matt I hope we meet some where.
regards Devon dave

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03-04-2010 04:06 PM  8 years agoPost 238
MattJen

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hi dave,

Have been watching your progress on your web site, it was your flight at Staddon heights which gave me the push to go for the longranger.

I was in awe of your scale detailing on your machine, i love those seats you have made, even down the creases in the covering, it certianly looks like an exuctive longranger.

One question, the wire protection system ( wire cutter) you have on the fornt of your longranger, where did you get it from ? as i can only find 1/4 scale size, did you custom make it ?

Mine is based on a longranger form the early 80's so the internals are retro compared to the modern looking ones.
it has been sold since it was based at Biggin hill and has has had 3 registration changes, it is currnetly in holland..

I am hoping to get down and see phil and dockyard dave in the summer, so it would be great to meet up with you as well.

thanks for the link to your site, it certainly is a lovely area of devon you live, and with your own flying area.

good luck with your builds..

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03-22-2010 07:13 PM  8 years agoPost 239
MattJen

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I HAVE STARTED WORK ON THE COCKPIT,

it was a sticker style facia, which i have removed and gone back to the fibreglass, i have cut a facia, and am in the process of finishing it..

I got some scale bits from checkoslovakia and after Dr tim recommended some scale accessories from starwood i also orderd a few of them.

I am now in process of painting those as well, am very happy with the outcome so far, the next part will be to work and design a custom built over head pannel..

Matt

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03-22-2010 07:41 PM  8 years agoPost 240
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Looking very good.

Keep the thread going and build pictures, it is interesting to newbies likemyself.

Ryan

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