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01-19-2009 12:45 AM  9 years agoPost 1
fenderstrat

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ok so I bought my FIRST gallon of fuel about a week or so ago(man am I pumped to fly nitro )been flying about 2 years and have decided to join the big boys,I did a search on nitro fuel storage and got lots of conflicting advice(almost as much B.S going around as with lipos)so whats the scoop on storing this till spring,right now I have it on a wooden shelf in my attached garage,but it is not heated, insulated and basicaly gets to ambient temp.it is also out of any sunlight.can someone give me the real info of fuel storage?thanks,FENDER

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01-19-2009 12:50 AM  9 years agoPost 2
bingahead

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i have 8 gallons just sitting here in my entertainment room at romm temp and have been doing that for awile now and have had no problems come spring time.just as long as its brand new and never opened with the red seal under the cap you should be fine.

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01-19-2009 12:51 AM  9 years agoPost 3
TaleGunner

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cool constant temp like in a basement is best
in an out building like that it will get some condensation

my question is why not use it I flew today 30 deg out sunny it was great

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01-19-2009 12:52 AM  9 years agoPost 4
Steff Giguere

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Just make sure you shake it well before you use it and everything should be fine.

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01-19-2009 12:58 AM  9 years agoPost 5
greenboot

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I leave my fuel jug on the cold concrete floor of the garage. Often for many months at a time. Make sure you wipe off the spider webs before loading it into the car and you should be fine.

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01-19-2009 01:02 AM  9 years agoPost 6
toolman18

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I once stored my fuel for about 3 years. 3 gallons. I kept it out of sunlight in the original box(thick cardboard) and in the garage. Not a whole lot of temp change there. It ran just as good as the new stuff.

Why dont you just fly from your back porch. You could fly till you get cold, then go in for some coacoa and come back out and do it again.

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01-19-2009 01:03 AM  9 years agoPost 7
fenderstrat

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my question is why not use it I flew today 30 deg out sunny it was great
this week was 9 deg and windy,right now its snowing steadily

the heli is also not completed,I am building it with help from RR,the fan/clutch and motor just got installed,going to finish the airframe this week,I am taking my time and doing it right.when it is ready to go one of the guys from a local club is going to show me how to break it in and tune it

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01-19-2009 01:12 AM  9 years agoPost 8
DWS6

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keep it out of sunlight, in a cool place that has a relatively constant tempature. The basement is good but the garage temp can swing enough to produce condensation on the inside of the bottle. If you see condensation then you need to move it inside. I will store my gallons in the garage in the summer flying season mostly because I burn it fast enough to not worry about it and i dont like carrying the cases up and down the stairs. During the winter I put it in the basement though.

If you see the condensation, dont shake it or you will mix more water into your fuel. Just pump it out into another jug.

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01-19-2009 01:25 AM  9 years agoPost 9
legoman67

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mine just sits under my desk at room temp, no issues.

just keep out of directly sunlight, and dot put in extreme temperatures for extended times(either end of the scale)

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01-19-2009 01:31 AM  9 years agoPost 10
TMoore

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You can leave fuel out in below 0 climes for weeks on end, even years and as long as it is out of direct sunlight it will be fine.

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01-19-2009 01:37 AM  9 years agoPost 11
DWS6

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True, as long as you dont get the temerature swings I guess you wont get the condensation. 0 degrees? Just out of curiosity, at want point does nitro or methenol freeze. Or does this alcohol not freeze at all? I guess I could look it up but I figured I would ask.

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01-19-2009 01:39 AM  9 years agoPost 12
reddragon

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I leave my fuel jug on the cold concrete floor of the garage.
That isn't a good thing. Raise it up off the concrete floor, preferably on a shelf or in a box. The fuel itself won't freeze but the oil lubricant may seperate when it is cooled over a period time but it will be fine once it is warmed up a bit.

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01-19-2009 01:55 AM  9 years agoPost 13
TMoore

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http://www.nugentec.com/FAQ/Freezin...sh%20Points.htm

I don't think freezing is much of an issue unless you are flying at the Arctic Circle for extended periods.

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01-19-2009 02:03 AM  9 years agoPost 14
Yug

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Long term storage is best at 1 to 5 degrees C if the 'taste' is to be maintained

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01-19-2009 03:25 AM  9 years agoPost 15
chopper_crazy

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I would say the best thing to do with fuel is fly it and use it up
Here are some tips that I have learned over the years:
-keep it out of sunlight
-keep at room temps.
-do not leave it sitting on concrete. Eventually the nitro will seperate
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01-19-2009 05:29 AM  9 years agoPost 16
fenderstrat

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-do not leave it sitting on concrete. Eventually the nitro will seperate
what does the concrete do that a wood shelf doesn't??

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01-19-2009 05:49 AM  9 years agoPost 17
Dood

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Eventually the nitro will separate
Seen it myself.

I had a partial gallon (I had forgotten about) left in an uninsulated shed for an entire Wisconsin winter. (It's pretty cold here) The shed had a dirt floor.

What I was left with:
  • There was separation between the alcohol and the oil, probably absorbed a lot of water.
  • The pink coloring in the fuel had totally disappeared, leaving me with a light brownish color.
I wish I had a picture to show you the evidence, but I used the leftover fuel to get a bonfire going.

Lesson learned: Wild Cat fuel doesn't fare all to well in a Wisconsin winter.

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01-19-2009 11:17 AM  9 years agoPost 18
LaurenceGough

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Just store it off the ground and out of sunlight. What I've been doing with my gallons and they last forever the same as day 1. (never separate even for months and months)

I store mine outside, where the temp ranges from -5 - +20C at a guess. (although not in one day, over a long period of time )

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01-19-2009 12:09 PM  9 years agoPost 19
T-Rex-Flyer

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A better question would be how was it stored in the months before you bought it.

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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01-19-2009 01:46 PM  9 years agoPost 20
The Dude II

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Works great!
Out-building with no heat in factory sealed cases.

Bought ~12 cases end of 2007 season, stored all winter & summer and flew all 08 till just a few weeks ago...had to buy my first "new case".

When the LHS needs fuel again, I'll piggy-back on their order and get another 12-16 cases. No shipping fee and a good deal on the $$.

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