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01-18-2009 06:14 PM  9 years agoPost 1
glydrjocky

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Hello Dino,

I noticed a question popping up that keeps getting buried deep within these threads and I was wondering if we could get a few answers.

Is there a part # for the shim pack that's being shipped with the new engines?

Who would be the best supplier to order from?

And when folks are upgrading their carbs to the new style, could the shims be shipped to them at the same time?

I think this would help clarify some of the questions I'm seeing...

Thanks again for your help and support

Tony

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01-18-2009 07:13 PM  9 years agoPost 2
Talron

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This whole thing seems like a joke, just recall the darned things and be done with it. I don't understand why it seems to be a big secret.

Ron

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01-18-2009 11:04 PM  9 years agoPost 3
glydrjocky

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NO!! Dont recall it I just got it running awesome!

The only people who truly know where the edge lies, are those who have gone over.

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01-18-2009 11:32 PM  9 years agoPost 4
JuanRodriguez

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NO!! Dont recall it I just got it running awesome!
Then why do you feel there is a need for shims ???

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01-19-2009 11:47 AM  9 years agoPost 5
Billebob

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Why do they want shims?- simply because someone else has them. People are squaking about the shims without even trying the motor out as it came. The engine has a full 3 year warranty to blow out a piston so be content in that knowledge and the fact that I've yet to see a TT53 piston with a hole in it. OS50 engines don't always come with shims (OS have holes in pistons often enough too), other 50s don't come with shims either; but stick extra shims in a single production run and old hell breaks loose. Guess myself and many others better pull out excellent working engines until we get a part number for those pesky and waskly shims or send it in to TT for a recall along with the guy who has not even run his yet. It's quite possible that during a single engine production run or even the current production standard something may have changed slightly tolerance wise so an extra shim was included just incase. Just maybe the engineers increased the compression for lower nitro users and added the shim for those wanting to use 30%. That would make sence since many good manufacturers improve product as an on going process. I know the original units were designed for 30% nitro. Now if we gave that shim to a fellow with a different production run engine then he might screw up a properly running motor and then blame the manufacturer. This theory holds at least as much water as all the whining I see around here.

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01-19-2009 12:11 PM  9 years agoPost 6
Talron

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Ouch Billebob,

Since no one seems to be able to tell me what the true "version" (for lack of better terms) my engine is, I would rather have a shim in there and prevent the hole in the piston. And perhaps it would be nice to have a carb that I know I won't have issues with rather than having to chase things for no reason.

I couldn't care less if I need to buy the shim, but in my eyes, This engine is brand new from the store. I bought it as such, and if there is a known issue that the mfg is replacing carbs for or adding shims in boxes for, then I would like to have it right from the start.

This isn't a new way to treat customers, but it is the right way.

I am sure that the engine will run just fine, it wouldn't have made it all the way into my hands if it didn't work in the first place. I just want to avoid any future issues. I have been told in the past (by other companies) that if something goes wrong they will replace it. Well, when something did go wrong, they said they wouldn't because it was suddenly my fault...

So I'm sorry if I'm the whiner that hasn't used it yet, but if you know how to make it right, then just go and make it right.

Ron

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01-19-2009 12:37 PM  9 years agoPost 7
Billebob

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Talron,

Install it and fly it. That will make it right. If you don't want to do that send the thing back to where you bought it for a refund. I see one of the TT reps volunteered to help you out on another post. You were told at that time exactly what version of the engine you had. Now you come back totally unappreciative with another belly-ache.
Since no one seems to be able to tell me what the true "version" (for lack of better terms) my engine is,
Below from the other post just to refresh your memory:
Keep in mind your older style of motor has the same warantee that the latest motors do. So if you run into any issues HCC will look after you.

If the motor doesn't work properly, contact me via PM and I can get in touch with the Canadian dist. on your behalf.
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01-19-2009 04:18 PM  9 years agoPost 8
Talron

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If that's how you feel, that I am belly-aching, that is fair. It wasn't my intention and I do feel that the Rep was doing the right thing and I did appreciate his help. However all the reps in the world won't neccesarrily be able to make the company do the right thing once the $hit hits the fan.

I feel as a consumer that if the product I am buying has known issues, they should be fixed before I get them. I understand that they can't get to all the stock in the world, but having an exchange program in place to deal with this would help. No questions asked. Make it transparent instead of a program that relies on information hidden in thread deep inside forums.

If you feel as a consumer that you are happy that your carb may work for you for a while, and you may end up with a good one, Great. But, what if in 2 years your carb fails on you, you crash, it breaks your engine in half and you ask TT for a new carb/engine. What will their answer be?

I appologize if I come across as an ass but I've had a $30 BEC fail on me and cost me $2000 on my Logo 600. I had to change EVERY Part. So if I can keep my engine from failing, I will do my best to do just that.

Ron

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01-19-2009 06:43 PM  9 years agoPost 9
Billebob

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But, what if in 2 years your carb fails on you,
Your warranty from reading the print is covered for 3 years-at least in the TT manual I have. A very generous warranty for normal wear. Crash damage is warranty excluded even if you crash in the first week.

After a 2k crash you really should learn to bail out and auto because sooner or later all glow engines will quit- be it a glow plug,fuel supply,failed servo, loose part issue etc. Close inspection of the helicopter will help to a degree but it will flame out eventually, they all do. Sounds very cold up there -plenty of sim time available heh.

Why don't you return the engine before you use it and go buy or exchange it an OS or YS? Now's your chance, before you use it. That way in your own mind you may feel somewhat more secure.

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01-19-2009 07:25 PM  9 years agoPost 10
Talron

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It's obvious I should learn not to argue on the Forums. When it comes to backwards thinking, there are always people that are better at it than me. Thanks for your deep thoughts, I'm done.

Ron

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