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01-18-2009 04:24 PM  9 years agoPost 1
Tommy Z

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Hey guys, I have a 2000 GMC Sierra that broke down the other day. It starts, stutters, then dies in a matter of 2-3 seconds. Yes, I know this is a heli forum, but I know there are people here that know a lot about cars.
I believe it's the fuel pump because it no longer whines when the ignition is turned on. I had my brother turn the key while I put my head by the left side of the bed, and it made a clicking sound. Do you think it's out? If so, should I replace the fuel filter whle I'm at it?

Does $200 sound right for a new pump?

-Tommy Boy

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01-18-2009 04:34 PM  9 years agoPost 2
RaptorMan23

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Yeah, your fuel pump is gone. As a last resort before changing it check you fuel pump relay but its a slim chance that is it. You could change the fuel filter at the same time, wouldnt hurt. Changing a fuel pump is a pain so unless your pretty mechanically inclined Id take it in. Drain the tank first!! $200 is probibly accurate for the pump itself

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01-18-2009 04:54 PM  9 years agoPost 3
B.T.D.T.

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Some fuel pumps are located in the gas tank. Yes you should change the fuel filter. When my fuel pump died, the mechanic told that if the fuel filter starts to get clogged, it will kill the fuel pump. They don't make fuel pumps like the old days. If you read the label on the fuel fitler, it requires changing every so offen. Lots of people don't know that the fuel filter requires regular changing.

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01-18-2009 05:05 PM  9 years agoPost 4
bubba01

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Sounds like the fuel pump is toast. On the top of the engine is a schrader valve on the fuel supply line (not the A/C lines). I'm sure if you cycle the key a couple of times and depress the valve, you'll only have a small amount of fuel bubble out? Sometimes, if you rap on the bottom of the tank with a rubber mallet it will start working again. If the rapping works I wouldn't drive it, but it least allows you to move the truck to a spot where you can work on it easier.

As stated, the fuel pump is a PITA to change since lowering the fuel tank in your driveway is not fun. It just depends on how inclined you are. The pump should be more in the range of $250-$300 from NAPA or Pep Boys and make sure you purchase a cheap quick disconnect tool for the lines. And yes you should change the fuel filter also.

If you decide to do it yourself, let me know and I'll email you the procedure from my GM manual.


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01-18-2009 05:25 PM  9 years agoPost 5
RaptorMan23

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By the way, if your doing it yourself there is a ring around the top of the gas tank that surrounds the fuel lines going in. You have to take a punch and tap the ring moving it to one side or the other to remove it. DO NOT bend this ring in any way because when you go to put it back in it wont work if its bent, even slightly. And they are pretty fragile. And make sure your new pump comes with a new O-ring

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01-18-2009 05:37 PM  9 years agoPost 6
PAHelinut

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Please Tommy if you have not done this sort of thing before please leave it to a pro. Gas is nothing to mess with. If you do decide to do it. Make sure your battery is unhooked and no one is smoking near you or the truck. If you don't drain the tank first you are going to nead at least one jack and a buddy to lower it down while you undo the straps.

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01-18-2009 05:45 PM  9 years agoPost 7
bubba01

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Another option is to remove the 6 or 8 bed mount bolts, unplug the tail light wiring, and lift the truck bed off. Then you can change the pump with the tank in place. 3 strong guys can lift the bed off.


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01-18-2009 06:02 PM  9 years agoPost 8
PAHelinut

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LOL Yes I have done that also! I'm also from NE PA where do you fly??

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01-18-2009 06:18 PM  9 years agoPost 9
bubba01

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In the fields in front of my house and at a friends farm a few miles away. I've never found a club close by so I fly solo....less embarrassing when I plow it in too.


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01-18-2009 06:21 PM  9 years agoPost 10
Salty

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Please Tommy if you have not done this sort of thing before please leave it to a pro. Gas is nothing to mess with. If you do decide to do it. Make sure your battery is unhooked and no one is smoking near you or the truck. If you don't drain the tank first you are going to nead at least one jack and a buddy to lower it down while you undo the straps.
Seriously....the kid is like 17 NOT 8. As long as your safe, there is nothing to worry about working with fuel...

Also, I would rather read a book and learn to do it myself and be self sufficient and not have to pay $45 to $90 shop rate and just buy the parts for $200 than pay the $400-$500 the shop will charge..
Do it yourself college boy...you'll figure it out.

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01-18-2009 06:24 PM  9 years agoPost 11
RaptorMan23

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Oh its not that bad, just change it Just empty the tank, dont smoke and youll be just fine

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01-18-2009 06:50 PM  9 years agoPost 12
Helirat

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Does $200 sound right for a new pump? That depends on if you have the new style Pump that has the relay and the float on it then Yes. I had my 2001 blazer in the shop for the same thing and lets say next time I wont be so lazy and do it my self and save the $800. It’s not hard to change it just a pain on the blazer because you have to Drop the tank out but on a truck all you should have to do is unbolt the bed and slide it back.
You should not have to take it off completely , the tank is behind the driver side on the inner rail of the frame.

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01-18-2009 07:19 PM  9 years agoPost 13
Tommy Z

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Thanks everyone for your input, very much appreciate it. I cinsder myself mechanically inclined but I have a buddy that will guide me through it
I'll do the fuel filter while I'm at it in that case

-Tommy Boy

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01-18-2009 07:19 PM  9 years agoPost 14
2LTime

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I've done it a few times. It's not that bad. Be careful getting the ring off on the top. As someone said it will need to be turned by usually tapping it with a punch to get it to turn. Use a BRASS punch. Sparks are bad. Brass no Sparky. Look at http://www.Rockauto.com to get an idea of price, they're usually pretty competitive. From your other posts you seem like someone who's willing to try stuff. This should be no big deal.

Jeff

P.S. If you need to get it working temporarily, like someone already said, give the tank a good whack. If that doesn't work, I've had good luck giving it a whack while someone else is turning the key. Make sure you bring the hammer with you as you will need it each time to start.

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01-18-2009 08:05 PM  9 years agoPost 15
zaw

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$200 fuel pump is too cheap!

It gotta be re-manufactured one or aftermarket.

goto local GM Dealership and get the GM part number form the sale rep and goto GMPartsdirect.com and order one. $243 listed there and its Genuine GM Part.

RockAuto will give you what ever they want to get rid of in stock. I ordered some brake rotors and they gave me 2 different brand.

Hopefully you can just lift the bed off and get to it on this truck.

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01-20-2009 11:44 PM  9 years agoPost 16
Tommy Z

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Update:
Hey again,

I took the bed off with no problems.
I pulled the fuel pump out and had a look. I laughed because it answered a question I had had for a while. Why the heck does my gas guage act in such an un-patterend way?!? The little device that measures the level of gasoline had so much slop on the hinge that at times the contacts did not even touch.

Anyway, here's the new dilema.
I went to Oreilly's to see what they had and brought the pump along. The guy gave me two options:

Direct replacement- $319

After-market- $270 BUT has a one year warranty

What would you do?

-Tommy Boy

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01-21-2009 12:01 AM  9 years agoPost 17
zaw

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Buy it from GmPartsDirect Very good service/price and original parts.

ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425

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01-21-2009 07:10 AM  9 years agoPost 18
Salty

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With a truck thats close to 300K on the clock, I'd personally save the $50 for heli parts....

The pump will outlast the truck....

Last question, After market or re-man? there is a difference...aftermarket is typically the hecho in china, reman is usually the rebuilt american...

Another option for ya...

Call your pick apart yard...$50 for any fuel pump guaranteed for 30-45 days OR you can spend the extra $5 and get a 2-3 year replacement warrenty (IE the pump goes bad you go get another one) your truck is a dime a dozen....my in tank pump went out in my $300 toyota beater...a aftermarket pump was over 3 bills...I couldnt see spending that on a car that could implode at any time and has been totalled three times (I'll keep fixing the little stuff, but a engine or trans goes out the car is getting crushed)

I gotta u pull it pump out of a car with 60K on the clock (mind you the pump that went bad was the original) for $50....been in there for two years and nary a problem...I put 20K on the odometer a year and still drive it long distance (with the title in the glove box in case it breaks down on the road)

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01-21-2009 08:10 AM  9 years agoPost 19
LonR

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FYI,sence you allready have the pump out its a little late to tell you this but if you still have problems replace the crank sensor.I replaced alot of them at our shop and there common problems on alot of 90's and up cars,trucks and vans.If the crank sensor starts going bad youll have a miss and it gets worse in higher RPM's and if it go's all the way out youll have no power to the fuel pump.

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01-21-2009 10:33 PM  9 years agoPost 20
Furious Predator

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also....check the fuel pump relay...i had one go bad on my truck. it could be as simple as your pump not turning on at all!

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