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01-17-2009 02:27 PM  9 years agoPost 1
dravengary

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Mayview Missouri

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I am looking at buying a slightly used Honey Bee King 2 it has the purple alum. head and tail. Are those parts any good? I also wondered if it fixed all the slop in the head and blade tracking issues? Thanks Gary

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01-17-2009 02:57 PM  9 years agoPost 2
L8ASUSL

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Louisville, KY USA

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I had the purple head for about 8 months and crashed many times and it held together good. I was using align blades cut down as these are alot better than the esky blades I had been using. I never had any problems with tracking. A couple of things I did was to add 2 spacer washers for a total of 3 between the rubber o-ring and collared washer on each side. This made all the difference in the world. I also glued in my dampeners as they lasted alot longer by not moving around.
Its a hell of alot better than the plastic.

Kevin

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01-17-2009 03:01 PM  9 years agoPost 3
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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Is the head any good thats a loaded question. I had the Esky original no knockoff $120 in piece parts. And yes it was a good head. Now to the loaded part of the question, It does fix tracking quite a bit but the head dampening with the 3 piece thrust bearings and cheap O-ring dampeners are its weak point. And tracking of the Esky woody fluttering blades on the head adds to the problem. I filed the tips of the spindle to remove a few .001 of an inch and shimmed the dampeners to tighten them up with some thick brass collars compressing the o-rings and switched to better blades eventually CF and all was good till I sold it last week with once again worn dampeners.

My conclusion is yes it will work great at lower headspeeds and normal sport flying. If I was in your shoes I would get the heli Sell the Esky head to get a copterX head off of Ebay.

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01-17-2009 03:43 PM  9 years agoPost 4
dravengary

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Mayview Missouri

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Thanks guys you have been a big help as always with RR

Thanks Gary

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01-17-2009 05:27 PM  9 years agoPost 5
Gregor99

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Western Wa

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I have over 500 flights on my purple head and tail. Going from the plastic head to the CNC initally solved a lot of my tracking slop and vibration issues. But over time the tracking issues resurfaced. I found that Esky used aluminum for the balls and the AR pin. The AR pin had worn about half way through in less than 100 flights.

I replaced all of the balls with either the stainless steel balls from the B400 kit, or where'd they fit I used the larger balls from the Align 450 kit. The head is not perfectly slop free even with all new balls and links. But neither is a Trex 450 head. I no longer have tracking issue.

I also switched over to the Trex V1 head dampers. These are the same shape as the stock ones but a little larger and harder. It stiffens up the head nicely.

Kevin, the dampers need to be lubed and should be able to move in the head. The shouldn't be glued. The Trex 450 v1 dampers will hold up better than the stock dampers.

I'm not sure if CopterX is using SS balls, but if they are, then its a better head at half the cost. So modding is required, but I suspect it's work it.

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01-17-2009 06:09 PM  9 years agoPost 6
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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I have been using these below in the TREX could slice them down to fit the King just like the washer hose. At $1.50 I thought I would try them and was very pleased have made many flights and a few crashes with no blowouts.
http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=4676

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01-17-2009 10:07 PM  9 years agoPost 7
L8ASUSL

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Louisville, KY USA

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I had a talk with a guy at the local hobby shop awhile back and asked him about the wearing of the head dampeners and he told me that I should glue them in and that the movement of the dampener is what causes premature wear.
I thought he was full of it but later in an e mail from Curtis Youngblood he stated that he glues all of his dampeners in.

Kevin

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01-18-2009 03:18 PM  9 years agoPost 8
dravengary

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Mayview Missouri

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Here is the heli I ended up buying off helifreaks last night

LMK what ya think Thanks Gary

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01-18-2009 03:23 PM  9 years agoPost 9
dravengary

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Mayview Missouri

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I will get a pic up when I get back that one did not work sorry

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01-18-2009 05:18 PM  9 years agoPost 10
TJinGuy

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Socorro, NM - USA

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I like my purple head. I too run cut down Align woodies on it abd it tracks fine. I don't use the purple swash though, instead I use the B400 swash.

- Chris

Team New Mexico
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01-18-2009 07:27 PM  9 years agoPost 11
dravengary

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Mayview Missouri

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Here it is I ended up with one that did not have the purple head and tail LMK what ya think

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01-18-2009 07:47 PM  9 years agoPost 12
zaw

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Lebanon, NH - USA

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I use those dampers also, tracking isses seem to be gone. I just need to figure out my radio issues and I'll be set.

ಠ_ಠ HBK2 built with inexpensive parts! ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Gaui425

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01-18-2009 07:52 PM  9 years agoPost 13
Gregor99

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Western Wa

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I thought he was full of it but later in an e mail from Curtis Youngblood he stated that he glues all of his dampeners in
Interesting, never heard that before. Seems like all the advice around dampers is to keep them lubed. I wonder if this is heli specific.

Revolectrix Beta Team

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01-18-2009 08:52 PM  9 years agoPost 14
toolman18

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Portland Tx

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Greg,
I think he does that on his Rave.

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01-18-2009 09:56 PM  9 years agoPost 15
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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Maybe he uses the Ultra hard urethane dampeners for 3D performance? I use the less dense rubber ones and the washers will squish and hold them. Would think a CA would just eat the stock dampeners.

just my 02¢ at currency trade and inflation its worth about 3/10¢

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