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01-18-2009 08:48 PM  9 years agoPost 41
raptorheli2

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rip off britain and no changing it

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tim, that is stupid advice to say the least.

buy a dx6/change power output or buy a module for your own JR and sell it before you leave. everyone is happy and you will likely not cost yourself too much...if anything.

i'm amazed at the amount of people who say you need insurance to fly but balls to the regulations to make it valid. why not save the 28 quid then?

for the record i don't like the regs but we need to play within them. if we don't want to play within them then we shouldn't be boasting about it to a visitor to our shores who is wanting to do the right thing.

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01-18-2009 09:12 PM  9 years agoPost 42
falcon

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i'm amazed at the amount of people who say you need insurance to fly
So am i , it is not a requirement you don't have to have it. Stupid if you don't.

You don't have to have a BMFA A or B certificates to fly either. if your on private property you can do as you like.

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01-18-2009 09:16 PM  9 years agoPost 43
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So could somebody please confirm my insurance will/will not be invalid because I don't have a cert to fly solo? (despite having done so for the last twenty odd years...)
Must keep the rule makers happy

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01-18-2009 09:16 PM  9 years agoPost 44
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Soooo you do as you liek it ends up in the papers that someone has been killed, theres a trial, and then all flying ends up regulated or banned.

Yes very good.

I think looking back to all those killed with helis/planes that you are doig them a disservice. DO we learn nothing?

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01-18-2009 09:18 PM  9 years agoPost 45
Stu.

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So could somebody please confirm my insurance will/will not be invalid because I don't have a cert to fly solo? (despite having done so for the last twenty odd years...)
Yes you are insured for liability. Means you can do something really stupid and they will pay out.

However just dont expect them to renew for all of us next year. If a hobby is deemed too big a risk they wont insure.

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01-18-2009 10:10 PM  9 years agoPost 46
tim deakin

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I didnt say dont get insurance, i said go fly and dont worry about it!

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01-18-2009 10:13 PM  9 years agoPost 47
tim deakin

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So could somebody please confirm my insurance will/will not be invalid because I don't have a cert to fly solo? (despite having done so for the last twenty odd years...)
Bmfa insurance is a pile of 'ass' but it is definetly (with-out a question) worth having. And you are insured if you havn't done your 'A or B' certs.

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01-18-2009 10:17 PM  9 years agoPost 48
tim deakin

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Were all of the pilots at the 3d masters 2008 flying with 2.4 illegal? If so, were the pilots made aware of this?

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01-18-2009 10:22 PM  9 years agoPost 49
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Legal maters are very clear cut, if you spell a word wrong in a document it becomes invalid ect. So, how can the dsx9's that are above the 100mv are illegal but the over powered 7's arnt?

Sensible answer please.

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01-18-2009 10:24 PM  9 years agoPost 50
raptorheli2

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sensible answer, anything over power is not legal. there is a blurb on horizon uk's website about this if you want a little more info.

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01-18-2009 10:25 PM  9 years agoPost 51
tim deakin

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I think its your rite to demand a replacement for your early 7's if they are over powered, becouse, you are not insured if anything happens!

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01-18-2009 10:26 PM  9 years agoPost 52
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Cheers raptorheli, i responed at the same time. i will check it out.

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01-18-2009 10:36 PM  9 years agoPost 53
tim deakin

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Horizon uk website,
Along with collision avoidance, international agreement has made it mandatory that all devices on 2.4GHZ also will have no more than one watt of output power. This is more than enough for modelling use, in fact DX6 and 7, like all commercially available modelling radio systems, only have 100 mW output. So there can be no high output transmissions to create interference as on the old systems.
Are all radios across the world limited now?

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01-18-2009 10:53 PM  9 years agoPost 54
falcon

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The UK seller would be responsible for suppling a radio that is not CE compliant. Since 2.4 ghz is an unlicensed band you are not provided with information from Ofcom regarding mode of operation and permitted power out put it is not the users problem.

Trading standards and Ofcom would be the only people involved in checking the suppliers source of the product.

If the user is miss sold a product,lke may of us have small plug in chargers and switch mode power supplies from China and 99% of the have a CE stamp but are totaly illegal due to the amount of RF noise they generate across the bands.

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01-18-2009 11:00 PM  9 years agoPost 55
Stu.

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Bmfa insurance is a pile of 'ass'
clarfy and expand? Why is it "Ass". £220 an hour for lawyers fess isnt funny.

Could break you before you have even started to defend ytourself.

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01-18-2009 11:02 PM  9 years agoPost 56
tim deakin

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I was just wondering about the early dx7 sets that macgregor sold with the higher output, I have a friend that thinks his output is higher than the 100mw limit. Is he entitled to a new set?

It's just a thought, I dont want to start anything.

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01-18-2009 11:05 PM  9 years agoPost 57
LaurenceGough

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Just get BMFA membership. Worth it no matter how you put it. I am one of the most careful flyers around yet I still have it. Not only do you get insurance but you're also with the UK's biggest modelling association which speaks out and helps us all (even if they are slightly plank based........)

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01-18-2009 11:09 PM  9 years agoPost 58
tim deakin

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£220 an hour for lawyers fess isnt funny.

Could break you before you have even started to defend ytourself.
I agree totally with you stu, but what if they decide they dont wont to defend you? I'm sure I read a case where they wouldnt pay out! I'm going to google it now.

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01-18-2009 11:11 PM  9 years agoPost 59
tim deakin

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Please dont get me wrong- 'YOU MUST HAVE INSURANCE'. Even if you dont like it or you think its rubish.

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01-18-2009 11:15 PM  9 years agoPost 60
raptorheli2

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tim, if he has an early uk aquired set then horizon will fix it for him. the info is in the blurb i mentioned before.

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