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01-17-2009 03:06 AM  9 years agoPost 1
billm

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I may be transferd to the UK (Manchester) for about six months.
I fly a JR9303 with the Spektrum mod. Is this a legal radio in the UK?
What would be the best way to ship my birds?
Is fuel easy to find?
I have my AMA but would think it's just a piece of paper in the UK.
Finding a field to fly, or do I just find a field and wait for farmer McNastey to kick me out?
Do I have to drive on the other side of the road?
Thanks

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01-17-2009 08:00 AM  9 years agoPost 2
mylee

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I may be transferd to the UK (Manchester) for about six months.
I fly a JR9303 with the Spektrum mod. Is this a legal radio in the UK? Not sure, but would think it's ok if it's 2.4, if it's 72 then it's a no no.
What would be the best way to ship my birds?Carefully!!!!
Is fuel easy to find?Yep, mail order next day, LHS usually with limited choice
I have my AMA but would think it's just a piece of paper in the UK.You will need BMFA insurance, £28, Your AMA may show your competent but will be worth little else
Finding a field to fly, or do I just find a field and wait for farmer McNastey to kick me out? I'd say it's best to search the BMFA website for a local club, Blighty is a lot smaller than the US and 'just finding' a field isn't the way to do business
Do I have to drive on the other side of the road? Your call, could be painfull if you don't
Thanks Your welcome

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01-17-2009 08:39 AM  9 years agoPost 3
GC1

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I live in Manchester so I know the area quite well.Here are a few additional comments.

With regards to the radio, in the UK power output is 100mw rather than 500mw that I believe the US has. I don't know what your Spektrum would be set to so check it out first.

Fuel. We have Revolution Models in Manchester which specialises in helis including fuel. It is actually the home of NHP carbon products as well.

You really need to join a club so AMA is not relevant as they will ask you to pay club and BMFA fees. Cheshire Helicats is a club you may wish to look at. It's not my club but we are more fixed wing than heli.

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01-17-2009 09:36 AM  9 years agoPost 4
nivlek

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It would be a good idea to join the BMFA .

http://www.bmfa.org/

Many clubs are BMFA affiliated , so you have to join the BMFA to fly with the club .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-17-2009 11:38 AM  9 years agoPost 5
raptorheli2

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rip off britain and no changing it

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I may be transferd to the UK (Manchester) for about six months.
I fly a JR9303 with the Spektrum mod. Is this a legal radio in the UK? Not sure, but would think it's ok if it's 2.4, if it's 72 then it's a no no.
What would be the best way to ship my birds?Carefully!!!!
Is fuel easy to find?Yep, mail order next day, LHS usually with limited choice
I have my AMA but would think it's just a piece of paper in the UK.You will need BMFA insurance, £28, Your AMA may show your competent but will be worth little else
Finding a field to fly, or do I just find a field and wait for farmer McNastey to kick me out? I'd say it's best to search the BMFA website for a local club, Blighty is a lot smaller than the US and 'just finding' a field isn't the way to do business
Do I have to drive on the other side of the road? Your call, could be painfull if you don't
Thanks Your welcome
you can NOT use your radio here. it does not comply with our laws. you will be better buying a dx7 when you get here and sell it before you leave.

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01-17-2009 12:13 PM  9 years agoPost 6
TOSH

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What will happen if he uses his 500mw TX in the UK?

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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01-17-2009 12:16 PM  9 years agoPost 7
nivlek

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What will happen if he uses his 500mw TX in the UK?
If there was an 'incident' , any insurance would probably be invalidated if it was found out that his transmitter was non-compliant . He could also face heavy fines .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-17-2009 12:20 PM  9 years agoPost 8
TOSH

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Very unlikely but what l mean is what will happen. Will other helis crash or will buildings fall down?

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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01-17-2009 01:37 PM  9 years agoPost 9
raptorheli2

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it's against the law........thats all that matters.

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01-17-2009 01:49 PM  9 years agoPost 10
TOSH

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So nothing will happen then?

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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01-17-2009 04:06 PM  9 years agoPost 11
raptorheli2

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well, thats subjective so lets examine.

1. it "can" shoot down other models
2. if the accident happens and hurts someone, or worse, you'll be in trouble
3. if convicted you will likely get a fine or custodial.
4. if custodial you will goto a jail
5. being forgein will not help matters here

so worst case scenario tosh would be a round of pass the soap, best case is he buys a dx7 and sell it again which will very easy. i think that covers both extremes.

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01-17-2009 04:19 PM  9 years agoPost 12
TOSH

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1. it "can" shoot down other models
OK but l just dont see how. l think if this had happened just once it would be all over the forums and l`ve never even heard a rumour of it. IMHO This 500 100 rule is just to make sure we in the UK get well and truly ripped off as usuall. lf the exchange rate was as it is now when the DX7 came out they would never have bothered.

Flybars. Who needs `em.

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01-17-2009 04:24 PM  9 years agoPost 13
raptorheli2

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tosh, i don't have the answers mate. but google will yield them if you care to look it up.

the fact of the matter is it's illegal to use it, so thats all this guy needs to know.

remember ofcom make the rules for the uk, not the model industry. so there would 1000000% be a uk spec dx7 reguardless of exchange rate.

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01-17-2009 05:02 PM  9 years agoPost 14
9387ASH

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Guys,

You are missing a vital bit of info....
I fly a JR9303 with the Spektrum mod
This implies that he is using the 9XII US variant with the Spektrum Module !

Easiest option is to obtain the Spektrum module here in the UK and either keep it or sell it on when he leaves.

Tosh,

Your comment
This 500 100 rule is just to make sure we in the UK get well and truly ripped off as usuall
is quite unfair as OFCOM does not MAKE the rules but has to ensure that the UK ABIDES by the rules as laid down by the EU.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the lying cheating politicians who shafted us !!

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01-17-2009 05:03 PM  9 years agoPost 15
nickwap

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What will happen if he uses his 500mw TX in the UK?
the same thing happens with mine - f*** all -

I wonder if the 3d Masters pilots all changed there tx's to 'UK Legal' sets.

Its to maintain the Rip-off-max and Macgreggor pension funds,

Nick

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01-17-2009 05:04 PM  9 years agoPost 16
9387ASH

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Oh and just to be accurate, the US Spektrum power output is 200mW ERP, not 500mW. They are allowed up to 500mW but the kit used is not capable of reaching that power level. FYI, Futaba FASST uses 100mW globally (apart from France & their dependencies [AFAIK])

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01-17-2009 05:15 PM  9 years agoPost 17
raptorheli2

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nickwap, yes 3dm entrants change their sets. already been answered before elsewhere i read.

i dunno why people chance using non UK 2.4 sets. the law sucks on this no doubt.

anyways i digress, tony is bang on. you can buy a spektrum tx module only which will be a lot cheaper. sorry i never noticed that it was a module you were running.

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01-17-2009 05:16 PM  9 years agoPost 18
mrloudly

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"the same thing happens with mine - f*** all -"

And mine :-)) On Ebay now if anyone's interested I've gone to a 12

I wonder if the 3d Masters pilots all changed there tx's to 'UK Legal' sets.

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01-17-2009 05:17 PM  9 years agoPost 19
Slartybartfast

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Its to maintain the Rip-off-max and Macgreggor pension funds,
ROFLMFAO !!!

Oh very good.... talk about coffee snorting from my nose !

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01-17-2009 05:39 PM  9 years agoPost 20
GC1

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It's not a question of whether a US set would work or cause problems. The main issue is that it not licenced to operate in that way by the radio licencing body who have nothing to do with RC, so it isn't anything to do with us being ripped off. In reality each country divides up the airwaves in their own way and needs to ensure that nothing clashes.

Given the price of a UK Spektrum module, this would be a very cheap way to go legal and would be easy to sell on later.

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