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01-18-2009 09:46 PM  9 years agoPost 41
Pinecone

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Actually JR is a reasonably late comer to RC world in the US. Early RC makers were Kraft, PCS, Orbit and others. Later came RS Systems and others.

JR didn't come until Circus Circus started their big tournement.

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01-18-2009 10:43 PM  9 years agoPost 42
DS 8717

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gosh you are not biased towards JR are you DS8717? LOL
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By lesser servo's i am including the JR servo's also. Say what you want but the 8717 is the top servo right now for performance.
I have been flying 12 years and can FEEL the difference.
i run the bls251 on my tail and i love it but only because it has metal gears the pot will wearout way before the brushes but its still the best tail servo i have run to date
Thats pretty much what happens to all most all the servo's that fail.

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01-19-2009 12:20 AM  9 years agoPost 43
QuickSilver

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JR may be a late comer to the RC world but the strides they have made since they have been in the RC business didnt happen overnight. Can you see where I am going with this?

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01-19-2009 01:17 AM  9 years agoPost 44
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JR may be a late comer to the RC world but the strides they have made since they have been in the RC business didnt happen overnight. Can you see where I am going with this?
I have no Idea where your going. You can go here though http://www.runryder.com/t476513p1/?highlight=ds+821

This is some conversation relating to the DS821 Spectrum/JR Servo. JR may have the reputation of making the best servo ever made but they also have the reputation for making the worst. Sound like a company that been making servos since the beginning of RC planes? BTW (they haven't). It always humors me how consumers can be blind and turn the other cheek so to speak when it pertains to their favorite brand. Consumers act just like cattle.

I dont live in a cave either as I've said, I own both.

I'm also not a newbie by any stretch of the imagination but your lack of JR history knowledge leads me to believe your information is flawed.

I have no Idea how long the Savox company has been in business as Align does not make these servos.

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01-19-2009 01:29 AM  9 years agoPost 45
Eury

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JR may be a late comer to the RC world but the strides they have made since they have been in the RC business didnt happen overnight. Can you see where I am going with this?
Not really, you contradict yourself from post to post. In the first post you made the Aligns aren't worth putting in any helicopter, then the next you say they are OK in an Align heli. You also say that JR has been making servos since the beginning, then the next post they are a late comer. With the constant contradictions, I don't think ANYBODY can see where you are going with anything on this post beyond you really liking JR servos.

Also, you say you wouldn't put them in a heli if you were paid to, so is it safe to assume you've never used them? Sure sounds like it's just the standard "Bash anything that I don't own" kinda post.

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01-19-2009 01:52 AM  9 years agoPost 46
TMoore

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PMFJI, JR in the early days used subcontractors to build some of their first radios. The first servos that JR made specifically for helis were the 801's. ATX had the 94551 corelss ball bearing servos out for quite some time prior to that likewise Futaba had a fast coreless BB version. I still have two JR Unlimited 8's here in the shop and they were fine radios back in the day. Like Pinecone said, in the scheme of things JR is relatively new compared to a few others. I prefer ATX servos myself but if I were cash impaired I would try a set of the 610's for myself in a beater before I pronounced them a POS, but that's me.

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01-19-2009 02:03 AM  9 years agoPost 47
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I love JR radios. I have their new flagship and have had a 9303, 6102 and one I can't even remember. I have had many futaba sets including a gold box 6FGK. My first set was a teletrol which came in a metal blue box with white linear servo's.
None of my radios have been dogs for their use at the time and none have let me down. I use both JR and futaba servo's. I have ditched JR as my gyro preference in favour of my 611's.
I consider myself a tech slutt...willing to try everything and stay as far out of the brand loyalty thing as poss.

You just gotta leave out the "I bought these and spent lots of my money so I don't want something else to be as near as good" as lots of people without the cash look at these forums and think they just have to have the 8717's when in fact they don't. Hey if they can afford them....then buy them and have them...there is no doubt about their pedigree or top performance.
As always the only ones that should really comment are those that actively use both servo's in the same type of machine so a fair comparison can be made.

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01-19-2009 03:15 AM  9 years agoPost 48
QuickSilver

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Eury,

OMG the DS610 are just so great I think I am going to outfit my next Bob Violett Jet with them. Is that what you want to hear?

PS Better go back and read my first post, I never said anything about them not being good enough to put in any helicopter. And I did say they would be ok in an Align helicopter but not in my Stratus, so I did not contradict myself there. Second, by me saying that JR has been making servos since the beginning of RC planes etc, try and read into what I was saying which is they have been making servos a hell of alot longer then Align. And yes they may be a late comer to RC but late to what other company? Certainly none that we are talking about in this thread. Which is Align.

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01-19-2009 03:22 AM  9 years agoPost 49
Eury

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No, I don't expect you to say that, but I do expect that when someone makes a judgment on something you would at least have owned that item. Since you haven't, you have no credibility. It's really that simple. You have NO IDEA what you are talking about, just spouting brand BS.

You are right, they are not as good as the 8717s (as I've already said multiple times), but they are damn good. It'd be like me saying that the OS 91HZ sucks because I really like my YS 91SR.

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01-19-2009 03:52 AM  9 years agoPost 50
QuickSilver

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Where in any one of my posts in this thread did I say I never used, flew, or owned a DS610? Let me answer that for you. Nowhere, you assumed that and you know what happens when we assume things. So here is the deal, my brother had one on his 1/4 scale buggy for steering and the servo motor got smoked under 6.2 volts less then 2 weeks old. I told him he was nuts for not replacing his original Airtronics 94758 that was 6 years old and on it's way out. So do I really need to actually own one to make a comment on it?

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01-19-2009 03:53 AM  9 years agoPost 51
Eury

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Where in any one of my posts in this thread did I say I never used, flew, or owned a DS610? Let me answer that for you. Nowhere, you assumed that and you know what happens when we assume things. So here is the deal, my brother had one on his 1/4 scale buggy for steering and the servo motor got smoked under 6.2 volts less then 2 weeks old. I told him he was nuts for not replacing his original Airtronics 94758 that was 6 years old and on it's way out. So do I really need to actually own one to make a comment on it?
I asked, you didn't answer, as for the rest of that post... LMAO

Why don't you ask me about something at random. I'm sure I probably know a guy who once had one and I can tell you all about it.

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01-19-2009 04:07 AM  9 years agoPost 52
QuickSilver

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I am glad that at least you agree that a DS610 failing as a steering servo is F----ing hilarious, I thought so too.

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01-19-2009 01:00 PM  9 years agoPost 53
Avropilot

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My brothers mother in laws, mail mans, sisters dogs brothers owner had a Align Air servo go bad too on his monster truck that he drove into the concrete wall at full speed with one eye open.

I had a friend put a OS32 in a Stratus once and it flew like chit. OS engines are crap I guess.

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01-19-2009 06:49 PM  9 years agoPost 54
QuickSilver

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Wow your pretty funny Avropilot! Did you think of that all by yourself or did your friend who put the OS32 in his Stratus help ya?

PS Don't quit your day job

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01-19-2009 06:54 PM  9 years agoPost 55
Eury

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How can YOU miss the point so badly? You haven't owned the servos that you are bashing, the only experience you have is that someone you know put one in an application that it wasn't designed for and it failed. Hardly a valid reason for you to bash it.

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01-19-2009 07:00 PM  9 years agoPost 56
nivlek

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the only experience you have is that someone you know put one in an application that it wasn't designed for and it failed
Actually , being a re-badged Savox servo , they would have been designed as steering servos for cars , so you could argue that a helicopter is the wrong application .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-19-2009 07:04 PM  9 years agoPost 57
Eury

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Dunno, I look at the specs and it says it's for helicopters. When I looked for the Savox equivalent, I couldn't find anything comparable.

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01-19-2009 08:20 PM  9 years agoPost 58
QuickSilver

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Well I can only assume thats why he decided to go with DS610 and not put another Airtronics 94758 which happens to be a steering servo as well according to Airtronics but guys do use it in helicopters including me.

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01-19-2009 08:28 PM  9 years agoPost 59
nivlek

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Here is the Savox servo :

http://www.savoxtech.com.tw/sc-1258.htm

It does seem that it is now listed as a heli or car steering servo .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-19-2009 10:45 PM  9 years agoPost 60
Pinecone

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Hmm, and the difference between an 8717 and a Z9000? Other than the length of the cable?

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