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01-16-2009 09:08 PM  9 years agoPost 1
ludwig

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i have heard the story that the align DS610 is just as good as the ds8717. I want to know what you you pepeol think??

Which one is overal best?????

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01-16-2009 10:39 PM  9 years agoPost 2
bingahead

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those new align servos are the loudest sounding servos i have ever heard.dont know much about them but i do know somebody who just recently maidened his heli with them and the throttal servo(ds610) burnt out on him.so i would just pay the extra money and get the 8717's

wife said" either its me or the helis"...damn it was sad to see her go!!!

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01-16-2009 10:54 PM  9 years agoPost 3
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the align servos are good but they are not 8717s
i have owned both and the 8717s are faster have more power last longer and can be run on 8v
the align serovs are very good $70 servos but do not compare and they are very loud!!!!

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01-16-2009 11:29 PM  9 years agoPost 4
TaleGunner

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I think you should pay the extra and get the ds8717

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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01-16-2009 11:47 PM  9 years agoPost 5
rexxigpilot

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha.... yeah, right. The Align servo is as good as JR's best! Ha ha ha ha ha ha, get real!

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01-16-2009 11:52 PM  9 years agoPost 6
Anthony.L

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i have heard the story that the align DS610 is just as good as the ds871
I suggest you find a new story teller, that one is blowing smoke up your arse.

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01-17-2009 12:45 AM  9 years agoPost 7
Stu.

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i have heard the story that the align DS610 is just as good as the ds871
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I suggest you find a new story teller, that one is blowing smoke up your arse.
Best post on RR for ages!

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01-17-2009 12:50 AM  9 years agoPost 8
raptorheli2

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amen to that brother

brilliant.

cheers


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01-17-2009 03:05 AM  9 years agoPost 9
Eury

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I don't think they are just as good, but for the price difference, the 8717s are not worth it. Yes, I've owned both, The 610s do a great job, center well, and are strong and fast, I'd bet that the vast majority of people couldn't tell the difference between them in the air.

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01-17-2009 03:26 AM  9 years agoPost 10
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stop dreaming i have owned both 8717s are much better

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01-17-2009 04:00 AM  9 years agoPost 11
Eury

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Funny. Anything to back that up with? What have you flown them on? How exactly are they worth more than twice as much money? Here's what I'll tell you. I had both at the same time, the 8717s on a Spectra G, and the DS610s on a 700. Sitting on the bench next to each other both on 6.6v, there was no discernible difference in centering, speed, or strength. In actual use in the air, they both fly perfectly.

So what are noticeable differences? The Aligns are noisier, and the JRs allow about 1 deg of deflection if you put a lot of pressure on the servo horn while it's centered, while the Aligns allow about 1.5 degs. The power consumption is much greater on the JRs as well, they use about 1.5 times the power of the Aligns in flight.

As I said above
, the JRs are better, but not worth the price difference. So let's see you back your statement up. I can buy 2 Align servos for the price of 1 JR. What makes the JRs worth the price difference? Maybe you have unlimited funds, but I don't, and the JRs are NOT worth the money, not just compared to the DS610s, but there are plenty of other servos that I'd also buy before a set of 8717s.

Nick Crego

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01-17-2009 05:03 AM  9 years agoPost 12
shortwils

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boy that wraps it up pretty good!

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01-17-2009 05:33 AM  9 years agoPost 13
TJinGuy

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It is nice to hear some actual test data instead of just "They are way better". Plus it is nice to get some logical thinking involved. Nicely put Eury

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01-17-2009 07:14 AM  9 years agoPost 14
Helinutnz

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stop dreaming i have owned both 8717s are much better
Yes these posts are rife here on RR and they have no useful meaning as often they are not backed up by experience....just the old..."well I bought and paid for them so they must be the best" scenario.

The least one could do is qualify the experiences they have had for others to make a decision on.

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01-17-2009 08:57 AM  9 years agoPost 15
llamont

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I don't think they are just as good, but for the price difference, the 8717s are not worth it. Yes, I've owned both, The 610s do a great job, center well, and are strong and fast, I'd bet that the vast majority of people couldn't tell the difference between them in the air.
I couldn't agree with you more, Eury. The fact of the matter is that most of us are not skilled enough to possess the touch that is necessary to really "feel out" a servo. While I'm sure there is an enormous gap in performance between a standard non-bearing analog servo and let's say an 8717, the technology used to design the current crop of mid-high ranged digital servos is finer than most people might think. However, with rc helicopters (and just like most hobbies) if something claims to be new and improved, there will be followers standing by the product...well, at least until something newer and more improved hits the shelves.

A few months ago, I created a post in another section in reference to using a particular servo on the swash plate of one of my helicopters. Almost instantly, a very well known MA Factory Team pilot responded to my question and assured me that the servos would provide for a very smooth flying machine, In fact, he flew the setup for a couple of years and he really enjoyed the model. After the pro's post, a guy goes on to tell me that the servos won't work and that I should just buy what everyone else seemed to have. I guess that my point is, is that both products are probably very capable as long as the right thumbs are guiding the gimbals. But just because one product does not cost as much as the other does not make it any less capable.

Loren

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01-17-2009 09:19 AM  9 years agoPost 16
nivlek

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Savox , who make the Align servos , are releasing some brushless servos . Maybe they will be closer to the mark .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-17-2009 11:20 AM  9 years agoPost 17
ludwig

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yea well pepeol say they can't tell in fligt. thanks for the pepeol that help i think for the price thats a great servo. you won't need better

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01-17-2009 03:30 PM  9 years agoPost 18
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The ? was which is better. The 8717s are by far I have owned both i hered the the 620 where as good so i bought them and they arent!!! that is not to say that they are bad servos because at $70 they are good servos but they arent as good as 8717s!!! And jr warr support is the best in the heli market!!!but if you arent into hard 3d most people wont tell the diff.

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01-17-2009 03:32 PM  9 years agoPost 19
Avropilot

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I see so many people respond about products they know absolutely nothing about. I have two Trex 600's Identical setups with the exception of the motor. The difference between the 8717's and Align DS610's 98 percent of the people on here giving advice couldn't see. I have personally reamed them both out in the air and into the ground. There is no noticeable difference between them on 6V.

So I will go ahead and say it. For the money/value/performance the Align DS610 wins hands down. Are they the best? Well if you are one that thinks you have the best because you paid the most for it. Go make Japan Remote a little richer.

And just to clarify, I'm a JR guy myself.

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01-17-2009 03:35 PM  9 years agoPost 20
rexxigpilot

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Hey nivlek,

Is Savox the same maker as other Align electronics? If so, they can keep their servos. We all know how good the switch mechanism on the Align 2 in 1 is!

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