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01-16-2009 05:20 AM  9 years agoPost 1
TheHud

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As most of you know, I am a staunch 2nd amendment supporter. I try to keep abreast of what laws are being introduced and write my representatives to let them know what I think about how they should vote on issues. I look at a lot of sources, some more credible than others. I came across this recently, and am "taking it with a grain of salt". But it got me really thinking about what I will do when the government really tries to disarm the citizenry of the U.S. Will I fold? Will I resist non-violently? Or will I not go silently into the night? I like to think that I would fight for my rights. I took an oath to defend the constitution and just because I no longer serve, I will continue to do my best to fulfill that oath. I just hope I have the courage to do so.

If you are not a gun owner, you do not need to respond to this post. I am just asking fellow gun owners how they think they will react.

Here is a link to what set this off in my head. There is an audio link on the page, long audio, but interesting. (The speakers are strong in their faith in God and I expect some here will attack on that premise. Please try to stay on topic.)

http://thelibertysphere.blogspot.co...scation-on.html

Gun control is like fighting drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.

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01-16-2009 05:30 AM  9 years agoPost 2
husky385

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I lovingly hand built both of my Sako actioned rifles. I will not let them go without a fight.
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01-16-2009 05:39 AM  9 years agoPost 3
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01-16-2009 05:40 AM  9 years agoPost 4
Dennis (RIP)

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From my cold dead hands.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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01-16-2009 05:47 AM  9 years agoPost 5
husky385

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Come to think of it I bought those rifles in parts. Actions, triggers,scopes. Sent the actions to a gun smith to have them barreled. Hand made the stocks. I don't think they exist in any kind of database.
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01-16-2009 05:50 AM  9 years agoPost 6
Dennis (RIP)

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Come to think of it I bought those rifles in parts. Actions, triggers,scopes. Sent the actions to a gun smith to have them barreled. Hand made the stocks. I don't think they exist in any kind of database.
They just might now Kevin.

You just told on yourself.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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01-16-2009 06:45 AM  9 years agoPost 7
philip 01

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why would the government want to take away your guns?

surely it couldn't be part of some crazy conspiracy theory.

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01-16-2009 07:21 AM  9 years agoPost 8
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The government will never come to get any guns when all they have to do is to make the ammo impossible to get.
They would fine or take over the places that do no obey etc...Get it?

MATTER SET FREE

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01-16-2009 01:32 PM  9 years agoPost 9
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I can't say if there is any truth to this audio or not. What I can say it this....

Disarming the US population would be easy to do,(pay attention to this part)if the Population were un-organized in resisting.

What does that mean? Your just one or two persons in a household an battalion of armed men could overtake them. What they can't overtake is an large number of people.

Talk to your neighbors and establish a standard for a call to arms. Nothing more. That’s all it takes to stop any army. You do not need to train and stockpile. You do not have to start a militia. You do not have to do anything that even sounds like terrorism. Just talk to your neighbors and agree on a method of calling to arms. Something like, "If someone shows up at your doorstep and asks for your guns, call me or blow a whistle or an air horn." When any armed group knows there is a call to arms, they will retreat.

If one person sounds and air horn and then another a block away and so forth. It would take 15 minutes to convey a call to arms over a 15 mile radius. Think for a second how many armed citizens that would be.

You don't have to do anything crazy to stop any idea of disarming the USA. Just agree with your neighbors and nothing more. You don't even need to own a gun to make it work.

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01-16-2009 03:41 PM  9 years agoPost 10
Dennis (RIP)

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You don't have to do anything crazy to stop any idea of disarming the USA. Just agree with your neighbors and nothing more. You don't even need to own a gun to make it work.
Nice idea. But, the way communication is now a days with the media, television, cell phones, and the Internet, I'll bet it won't take long for the word to get out without blowing any horns.

In any case, I have a lot of serious doubt anyone is going to take away our guns in the USA. There are simply to many of them, and not enough enforcement resources to make it happen. Any voluntary gun turn ins are always be a laugh, of course. Only silly ninny liberals will do that.

As far as either going with excessive taxes on ammo, or making it unavailable, that would be a tough one as well. A black market would quickly develop to by pass any attempt to make ammo unavailable to folks that like their guns and the right to own them.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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01-16-2009 05:38 PM  9 years agoPost 11
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I have thought long and hard on this and have come up with this:
What is the one thing ANY Politician wants?
To remain elected. To get relected.
Piss off 85 MILLION lawful, voting age citizens that own firearms and you are screwed.
We watched it happen with the Klinton administration and I would not be suprised if a few of BHO's associates have reminded Barry of what happened after the 94 AWB bill got passed. Virtually EVERY Congressman that voted in favor of it got voted out of office come 96.
You cant tell me that nobody on Barry's staff hasnt noticed the post election firearms sales and hasnt brought that to somebodys attention.
Besides, in this time of economic turmoil why would you:
1-Shut down a prospering industy?
2-Destroy what has historically been a prominent US led industry?
Economic Stimulus?
Now for the reality of it:
We are going to see an unqualified Presidential candidate seated as the POTUS next week.
He has promised the world to his ignorant supporters and yet he has come to realize that he cant make half of his promises come true.
So I would be willing to bet that he will go after anything he can as far as the Demoncratic platform touted.
Firearms will be high on his agenda.
We will see a permanent AWB ban go into place. Will it have a "Grandfather" clause? Possibly. I see legislation similar to Cook County Illinois coming. If you own it prior to the ban date you will be allowed to keep what you have but it must be registered. You will not be allowed to sell, trade or otherwise transfer said item. When you pass away your estate must turn in the items. No passing on items to heirs. They must be forfieted.
Or we will be allowed to keep what we have and must register and pay a stiff annual tax to lawfully posess said items.

I honestly dont think you will see confiscation of firearms in the U.S.
You have close to 300 million firearms lawfully possesed by 85 million lawful owners in the U.S. If it goes to a "Gun Grab" by the government who is going to do it? The military? Doubtful. I think you have enough officers in high ranks that realize the meaning of "Protect our Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic"
The military structure is such that it not only is to protect us from foreign threats, but also from a Tyrannical government.
The FBI-ATF-Local Law enforcement? I dont think so either. Being in the firearms industry I get the chance to ask this question to Feds and LEO's. Almost everyone to a man has stated that if they were ordered to go and seize firearms they would quit on the spot for 2 reasons:
1- They still believe in the Constitution.
2- They know it would be a suicide assignment.

Think of this: With over 300 million firearms in 85 million lawful owners hands and entities start going door to door seizing firearms. While probably 75% of the owners will capitulate and give up their firearms you still have 25% that are of the "From my cold dead hands" standpoint. 20 + million firearms owners willing to fight it out?
Bloodbath.
Think the ATF-FBI and local jurisdictions are ready for that? Not hardly. Neither is the military.
Neither is our Government. Think of the political fallout when there are 500, 1000 or 10,000 dead agents, officers or soldiers from a politicians agenda in their own country. Yes it has happened in other countries but I think as long as we have ANY form of Democracy in the U.S. you wont see it.

The real question is: Why is our Government so afraid of our firearms?

The one scary thought is if this administration signs us into the U.N. Then it could be U.N. troops going door to door and seizing firearms. One of the clauses in the Millenium Act imposed by the U.N. is for any country to recieve U.N. aid is no small arms ownership by a civilian populace.
Blue helmets make good targets.

Get em while you can and:

MOLON LABE!

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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01-16-2009 06:47 PM  9 years agoPost 12
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fwiw...

Actions speak louder than words...When the time comes....

BC

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01-16-2009 07:44 PM  9 years agoPost 13
jamesdh

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Went to a fun shooting class last weekend.
Learned to hit out to 500 yards.

Might come in handy when the Blue helmets, Redcoats or what have you come knocking plus it was rewarding learning how to actually hit things out to 500 yards.
Never imagined I could hit anything at that range much less with iron sights!!

Appleseed

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01-16-2009 09:11 PM  9 years agoPost 14
kookboy

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The government will never come to get any guns when all they have to do is to make the ammo impossible to get.
They would fine or take over the places that do no obey etc...Get it?
Bingo.

Look at UK/OZ.

Ammo will disappear and fines will be implemented.

It's that simple.

They won't take my Glock's but I'll probably get fined up the ying yang.

The chaos you guys are dreaming about won't happen.

... But honey it was only $$$

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01-16-2009 10:11 PM  9 years agoPost 15
Dennis (RIP)

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Just got this e mail form a friend. Read on:

To the Guy Who Mugged Me Downtown (Downtown, Savannah ):

I was the white guy with the black Burrberry jacket that you demanded I hand over shortly after you pulled the knife on me and my girlfriend. You also asked for my girlfriend's purse and earrings. I hope you somehow come across this message. I'd like to apologize.

I didn't expect you to crap your pants when I drew my pistol after you took my jacket. Truth is, I was wearing the jacket for a reason that evening, and it wasn't that cold outside. You see, my girlfriend had just bought me that Kimber 1911 .45 ACP pistol for Christmas, and we had just picked up a shoulder holster for it that evening. Beautiful pistol, eh? It's a very intimidating weapon when pointed at your head, isn't it?

I know it probably wasn't a great deal of fun walking back to wherever you'd come from with that brown sludge flopping about in your pants. I'm sure it was even worse since you also ended up leaving your shoes, cellphone, and wallet with me. I couldn't have you calling up any of your buddies to come help you try to mug us again. I took the liberty of calling your mother, or "Momma" as you had her listed in your cell, and explaining to her your situation. I also bought myself some gas on your card. I gave your shoes to one of the homeless guys over by Vinnie Van Go Go's, along with all of the cash in your wallet, then I threw the wallet itself in a dumpster.

I called a bunch of phone sex numbers from your cell. They'll be on your bill in case you'd like to know which ones. Alltel recently shut down the line, and I've only had the phone for a little over a day now, so I don't know what's going on with that. I hope they haven't permanently cut off your service. I was about to make some threatening phone calls to the DA's office with it. Oh well.

So, about your pants. I know that I was a little rough on you when you did this whole attempted mugging thing, so I'd like to make it up to you. I'm sure you've already washed your pants, so I'd like to help you out. I'd like to reimburse you for the detergent you used on the pants. What brand did you use, and was it liquid or powder? I'd also like to apologize for not killing you and instead making you walk back home humiliated. I'm hoping that you'll reconsider your choice of path in life. Next time you might not be so lucky. If you read this message, email me and we'll do lunch and laundry. Peace!

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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01-16-2009 10:15 PM  9 years agoPost 16
husky385

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Went to a fun shooting class last weekend.
Learned to hit out to 500 yards.
That's what one of mine was made for. Canjar single set trigger, 6.5 to 20 Nikon scope, Douglas air gauge target barrel 1 in 9 twist No. 5 sporter taper B&B gunworks ballistics adjustable muzzle brake in 7mm STW. Locking lugs lapped, bolt face trued with bore. It shoots better than I can.
Kevin

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01-16-2009 11:21 PM  9 years agoPost 17
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Sadly all of mine were lost in a boating accident... all I have is a 22 pistol.

We will soon have easily the most anti-gun group of people in government ever. I doubt an all-out ban will occur, but retarded laws will. Its not going to be a door-to-door gun grab, that would cause riots. Its going to be a slow methodical usurpation of rights. Its much harder to fight that.

I give up on Loctite, nothing lasts long enough to vibrate loose anymore.

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01-17-2009 02:36 AM  9 years agoPost 18
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01-17-2009 04:24 AM  9 years agoPost 19
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What will you do when they come to disarm you?
Hopefully more than we did when they robbed us of every cent we have and put our grand kids in debt.

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