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01-15-2009 10:52 PM  9 years agoPost 1
rfusion

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I am looking to get started with my first helicopter. Is the 6 channel Honey Bee King 2 too difficult to start with? I want something that I can learn with, but is also very capable. Also, will I notice a great difference between the standard transmitter and a 2.4 ghz? I appreciate any feedback.

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01-15-2009 10:55 PM  9 years agoPost 2
Steff Giguere

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I don't know about your budget, but if I was to start over again I would start with a 500 size like the T-rex 500 or Protos, or something else of this size.

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01-15-2009 11:03 PM  9 years agoPost 3
McRex

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+1 for the Protos, super stable, and the most capable 500 class heli. If you can't afford that, there's always the T-Rex 450, they are great beginner heli's, and you can always find a good used one on here or ebay. Plus the parts are cheap for either heli. If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't have bought a super small heli like the HBK 2... Just think you're better off to go with something that will last you for longer than 6 months.

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01-15-2009 11:04 PM  9 years agoPost 4
McRex

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Also, get a simulator, and fly it first! That will save you tons of money, and downtime.

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01-15-2009 11:20 PM  9 years agoPost 5
colsy

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but if I was to start over again I would start with a 500 size like the T-rex 500 or Protos, or something else of this size.
Yup, me too.

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01-15-2009 11:20 PM  9 years agoPost 6
Steff Giguere

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True about the simulator and remember the bigger the heli the more stable it is.

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01-16-2009 01:31 AM  9 years agoPost 7
rfusion

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The T-Rex might be out of my price range. I am trying to start out under $250. Would I get a better value with the E-SKY Belt CP than the Honey Bee King 2? The Belt CP is a 450 size which you state will be easier to learn with. Will a 6 channel be much more difficult to fly than a 4 channel?

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01-16-2009 02:11 AM  9 years agoPost 8
McRex

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I read a good review on the Belt CP in RC Heli Mag, it looks like a decent heli, if your budget constrains are those. A 6ch is more difficult than a 4ch, but a 4ch you will most likely get bored with very quickly. I emphasize the use of a good simulator, Realflight G3.5 or above is good, you can even get one used. A simulator can get you through the first stages without all the crashes, you can also use them to learn the basics of 3d flight. Hope this is helpful.

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01-16-2009 02:20 AM  9 years agoPost 9
Steff Giguere

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If you only want to spend 250$ then get a simulator, and then save, save, save and get a heli that will grow with you. Most have regretted getting something not expensive in the longer run.

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01-16-2009 02:32 PM  9 years agoPost 10
mach1stang

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Lets get Real here. First off you need to learn to fly. It is really hard in the beginning. In my opinion you don't want to start with a 6 ch or a nice Heli. Your just going crash it alot. All beginners do. Go and get a Eky Sim for 20$. There not great but it will work. Pick up a HBFP or some thing like that for 100$. Pick up some spare blades, rotor head. and flybar 20$ There you go. Lots of learning videos out there for the HBFP. Check out Nuttcaze.com. After you learn how to fly, then get you a nice Heli like a Trex 450. Trust me, you'll save money in the long run. Bigger heli's cost more to fix. Remember you will crash, ALOT. Happy Landings

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01-16-2009 04:31 PM  9 years agoPost 11
Tugnut

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Speaking As a new person to heli flying, I would recommend first that you visit your LMS and chat with them, best thing about this is if you get the heli from them they will most prob, help with set ups and give great advice, also no matter how cheap the heli is, its not going to save you money if you cant get the parts easy, or in some cases the heli is cheap but parts/upgrades that are required put $ on are not.

also Flight sim is a must, if you ask me worth every penny and more, the money spent on this will save you lots later on.

what price you got in your head on spending on a Heli at least times it by 2 or even better by 3, as you will crash at some point and depending on what breaks the spare parts can mount up... also you will need tools on set up like pitch gauges ect.

also look at joining a club this will cost $ to, but the wealth of info you get will make up for that loss, and there are always some one that will be more than happy to help you learn, and in turn will save you $ as well.

I cant tell you much more, as i say i am new to the hobby but the above is what i have found so far.... Happy flying and even happer landings

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01-16-2009 06:04 PM  9 years agoPost 12
Skarn

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[quote]If you only want to spend 250$ then get a simulator, and thing save, save, save and get a heli that will grow with you. Most have regretted geting something not expensive in the longer run.
I agree with this! What I don't agree with are those that say to get a HBFP or ANY micro as your very first heli! Yes, they are cheap, yes they are cheap to repair....but they are the hardest heli's to learn on! I highly recommend a 450 or larger size heli....and as steff said, $250 won't get you much at all....so save up and sim away until you get the funds.

Good luck!
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01-16-2009 06:16 PM  9 years agoPost 13
ranben

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Hey Rfusion,

Here's the deal. The larger the heli, the more stable they are, but if I were you, I would start with a Honey Bee Fixed Pitch 4 ch. Heli. This will give you the basics for flying the larger heli later and will teach you at a less expense. You can buy one for less than $100. If you crash, you are looking at less than $10 normally in parts. With the larger 6 ch. heli you will be looking at $50 to $100 or more in parts. The HBFP is easy to fix. The 6 ch. larger heli is not. You will spend a lot of down time. Start with a simulator, then the HBFP 4 ch., then move up to a CP 6 ch. Be sensible and have fun.

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01-16-2009 06:20 PM  9 years agoPost 14
JetFire

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I don't know about your budget, but if I was to start over again I would start with a 500 size like the T-rex 500 or Protos, or something else of this size.
+1 more.


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01-16-2009 06:35 PM  9 years agoPost 15
mach1stang

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Yes the king 2 is going to be difficult to learn on. There is not much differences between fm and 2.4. I like the 2.4 because there is less chances of picking up some feed back from other equipment and Tx's. It seems to me it would be better to be doing sim time and trying to fly something now. Buy the time you get enough money lets say for a Trex you will already know how to fly. IMHO

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01-16-2009 06:35 PM  9 years agoPost 16
McRex

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Seriously, don't waste your money on a micro FP heli, it won't take long to get bored with it, and you still won't have mastered anything other than how to repair. Get a good quality sim, and save until you can get a good heli that will grow with you, you'll spend less in the end. It's super tempting to start small and cheap, but with help, from friends on RR, you can resist these urges, as they cost more in the long run. Trust me, I already made the same mistake years ago.

mach1stang, there is a huge difference between 2.4, and FM. The response rate for one is much quicker, and no frequency pins, plus no interference period.

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01-16-2009 06:55 PM  9 years agoPost 17
mach1stang

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McRex How much difference in response time we talking about. 1/100th Of a second or less. Not alot to a beginner.

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01-17-2009 04:24 AM  9 years agoPost 18
skewed

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i am new to all of this also and i would agree to start with a good sim. i tried a few micros and i have to say it was wasted money. for your intro price i would suggest getting a tx (pick up a used dx6i for $100) and pheonix sim ($125). the tx will be good enough for your first real heli (be it a 450, 500 or a 30 nitro). getting into flying the sim will let you know whether or not you really enjoy this hobby and want to really get into spending more money on it. i am having a ball with pheonix. the sim will save you money in the long run. if you dont like flying sell the stuff and you wont be out much.

here is a thought- put a big jar next to your computer and every time you crash drop a quarter in the jar. believe me, before you know you will have enough quarters to buy your first real rc heli.

cheers and good luck!
ryan

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01-17-2009 09:37 AM  9 years agoPost 19
mach1stang

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After a while the sim's get really boring. I know alot of guys who started out with 4 ch. With in about 15 hours you will be flying. Sim time is the best way to learn, but you want to have fun. There's now way in hell with your $$ you want to spend your going to do that with a great sim and no Heli. I've been there and did that.. Lets have some Fun and learn how to fly. You got to have real stick time to get excited. IMHO Only my 2 cents

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01-17-2009 01:18 PM  9 years agoPost 20
predatorman

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True about the actual flying, but the sim is just that...a sim...and a good learning aid it is too.

I used FMS for a long time, its free..but you have to find the radio and cable to use it...better off finding the Esky sim deal...prolly the same as FMS anyway.

2.4GHZ is the one you want to get...FM has its merits...but electric helis are notorious for RF 'noise' which will cause a glitch and crash...its frustrating and not very safe. Yes you can deal with the RF thing with a good reciever and careful antenna routing...but 2.4ghz is here to stay...its very good. Cured my Trex 450 problems right away

You might get confused with the opinions here, each flyer has thier experience to draw from.

Get the sim! and start learning

IF you have a desire to own a heli and own it NOW...then go out and buy the CX2..the controls are accurate to a point...you got fully functioning cyclic for one...and you cant go too far wrong with this model.

Find a large room to fly in

Its the only fixed pitch heli out there I would buy for a learner...there are others but they are junk.

You get what you pay for, the very least of the proper rc helis is the Trex 450 series...whichever you get...you will pay quite a bit.

You will be buying a proper radio for a start, plus a decent gyro...good battery packs and charger to match...plus a handful of tools.

Buy cheap....buy twice!!! is the rule.

Quality takes........time!

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