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01-14-2009 10:11 AM  9 years agoPost 1
NZ_Nitro

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I see some people even with a new carb are having inconsitent mixture issues with their redlines a question is what help would a perry pump do? waste of money or for the $30 worth the cost for consistent fuel delivery http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDG59 just put one on my ASP180 and it works very well

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01-14-2009 10:47 AM  9 years agoPost 2
Footey

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I would go with one of the Align motors they work well, no problems with tuning.

Life is like a bath, the longer you stay in it the more wrinkled you get.

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01-14-2009 02:48 PM  9 years agoPost 3
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+1 for the new Align motors. I'm sold on them since running the 91 in my Avant hard. It is very powerful and easy to tune. Hopefully the long-term results prove as good.

I was Spektrum when Spektrum wasn't cool

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01-14-2009 08:27 PM  9 years agoPost 4
NZ_Nitro

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why?
I would go with one of the Align motors they work well, no problems with tuning
would I buy a cheap Chinese copy of an OS motor? my Redline is an awesome motor and I wouldn't change it I have noticed a slight leaning issue with the use of a governor and I proved that by switching it off and on during flight, as I have just got one for my 4 stroke its just a topic for discussion, if you want power go with the redline not Align...

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01-14-2009 08:30 PM  9 years agoPost 5
RaptorMan23

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OS 50-sxh

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01-14-2009 08:46 PM  9 years agoPost 6
falcon

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To many mixture issues and it won't run consistently, mine is truly a load of rubbish and i have gone back to hypers .

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01-14-2009 11:26 PM  9 years agoPost 7
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would I buy a cheap Chinese copy of an OS motor?
a. Runs as good or better
b. Stays tuned
c. Much less expensive

Don't knock it till ya try it.

I was Spektrum when Spektrum wasn't cool

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01-14-2009 11:47 PM  9 years agoPost 8
Footey

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Thats right Nash, they are not made in China they are made by OS this is common knowlege. They have been around for a while now and have a proven track record, I have seen some pretty awesome flying with them and to say the dont have power is just plain dumb, with no evidence what so ever.

Life is like a bath, the longer you stay in it the more wrinkled you get.

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01-15-2009 12:37 AM  9 years agoPost 9
glydrjocky

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My mixture was all over the place until I tried Dino's fix of loctiting the hidden needle with a drop of blue loctite on the threads, dried overnight, then installed to a cap of 1mm between the tip of the hidden and the end of the idle mixture screw. The last 3 full tanks were perfect runs!

The only people who truly know where the edge lies, are those who have gone over.

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01-15-2009 04:49 AM  9 years agoPost 10
NZ_Nitro

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thats interesting
My mixture was all over the place until I tried Dino's fix of loctiting the hidden needle with a drop of blue loctite on the threads
Might look into it so with some people its quite random and I wonder if its sucking air somewhere now and then

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01-15-2009 04:51 AM  9 years agoPost 11
NZ_Nitro

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give it a rest kEvIn
Thsts right Nash, they are not made in China they are made by OS
you are really starting to sound like a cry baby some people like Align some dont like them, and you are biased towards them anyway as they are your income being the NZ agent for Align, its cheaper to buy them overseas anyway

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01-20-2009 01:35 PM  9 years agoPost 12
falcon

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I contacted Amerang today and they were very helpful.

If you are in the UK and you have a TT53 Redline with the old carb and you are having problems give them a quick phone call.
Ask for the service department and tell them your problem and they will ask you to send in your old carb back and they will replace it free of charge. I am sending mine today.

Amerang Limited
Lancing Business Park, Commerce Way
Lancing, West Sussex BN15 8TA
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Tel: 01903 756496

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01-20-2009 04:53 PM  9 years agoPost 13
alfred

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Amazing
Somebody asks how to solve any inconsistant mixture issues and the first response is to buy a different engine. Way to go, that really helps.
Must be a new record for going Off Topic on the first reply.

Solutions:
1) Make sure you got the new carby
2) Use the little bit of loctite on the 3rd (hidden midrange) needle
3) Double check your plumming
4) Pull carby and give it a good flushout
5) Keep it on the "rich" side and expect the engine to be a bit all over the place mixture wise until it had at least 10+ tanks of fuel through it.
So expect to chase the needles for a while until it's run in.
After that, it runs like a sawing machine.

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01-20-2009 07:09 PM  9 years agoPost 14
falcon

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I must add to my last post regarding Amerang.

I originally purchased my engine back in August from Inwood Models and after speaking with them today they could not of been more helpful.

Although unaware of the ongoing Redline carb problem they offered to sort it for me and deal with Amerang but i ask for the info to save them the bother and ship the carb direct. Its nice to know shops like this do support their customers.

www.m0kwr.com

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01-21-2009 02:23 AM  9 years agoPost 15
NZ_Nitro

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I have had the lean issue
yes with the new carb but only when the governor is engaged, if I turn it off it goes away..... always at the end of the day it seems to happen I now run slightly rich and are SLOWLY coming up to the right settings! its an awesome motor!

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01-21-2009 02:25 AM  9 years agoPost 16
NZ_Nitro

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Kevin was Trolling
Somebody asks how to solve any inconsistant mixture issues and the first response is to buy a different engine. Way to go, that really helps.
Must be a new record for going Off Topic on the first reply
http://www.runryder.com/t417208p1/

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01-21-2009 02:47 AM  9 years agoPost 17
baddynergy

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Coops, the redline is a great motor. Mine has been consistent and POWERFUl for many gallons. I still run the original carb since it first was released.

If your having a leaning issue, where does it happen in your curve? is it around hover or just slightly over?? If it is richen the LOW needle slightly. It takes a bit to get the tuning down but once you do its a rocket. Power the Os Hyper could only dream of making.

I went a little rich on mine on the low( 1/4 turn rich from flush) and the high needle is set at 2 turns and runs the carb smart to make up for the richer mixture at the higher end. I do recommend the carbsmart for theis engine. Mine is set at 110c and 70% gain.

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01-21-2009 02:53 AM  9 years agoPost 18
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Hi Badraptor
I also think its a great motor, I run a multigov pro on mine too and it seems that there is some sort of interaction between the gov and the motor mixture it works ok most of the time but just every now and then it goes lean like other folks have described, Work is once again getting in the way of fun but I tweaked open the idle a little yesterday and it seems to have fixed it I may try the mod Dino has done but this motor is very powerfull but needs gentle adjustments I have set my multigov up on a switch so I can disable it at will which is handy for chasing what is causing it

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01-21-2009 02:58 AM  9 years agoPost 19
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Actually the Perry pump
made my ASP180 run like crap and I have removed it runs like a dream when its just on the tank pressure didnt need it anyway its just that I had some cash and thought I would try one

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01-21-2009 07:35 AM  9 years agoPost 20
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coops

Long time ago I tried the same perry pumps on not just heli but also plane engines.

perry pumps used to be run mainly on "HP" engines. These then came with a special carburettor which was designed for high pressure/fuel flow.
Your normal carby is designed for low muffler pressure, so the taper of the needles is too sharp for a perry pump.
What happens is that when you install the pump on a normal engine, it makes the needle/mixture adjustment too touchy for "most" of the engines.

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