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01-14-2009 02:55 PM  9 years agoPost 21
colsy

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The 600 just did not feel locked at all. Is the 700 this way or is it a little better???
Exactly what i experienced. I hated it with a vengeance !!

R90 is best all round 90 i have and gets the most airtime.

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01-14-2009 03:32 PM  9 years agoPost 22
LonR

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Good advice from JAGNZ on page 2 when you crash pretty good and reck the frames http://runryder.com/t475770p1/ .When you crash the 600/700 and crack the frames be ready to buy a whole kit like JAGNZ said cause its going to be about the same price.So LOL at the guys that says its cheap to repair and you guys can stop saying that anytime .<--- thats my opinion just like everyone ealse.JR Vibe and Thunder Tiger Raptor is the way to go IMO.I'll use my Raptor as a example.I crash BAD and the repairs cost me well under $100.00 to fix and be back in the air the same day.I ripped the boom all the way off and if it was a Trex I would be buying another kit cause im 100% sure it would need frames.Im sure if align went down to around $50.00 (T600) or $70.00 (T700) for the frames I would think about getting one but till then thats a total rip off IMO.Even if I tosted my frames in the crash (they were 100% perfect) I could buy a whole crash kit with blades and frames for the cost of just the frames on the Trex..Trex is NOT a cheap heli to fix so I dont understand why people keep saying that.

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01-14-2009 04:16 PM  9 years agoPost 23
SuperSixTwo

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I have a 700 and love it, but if i were looking for a new 90 i would take a hard look at the Turbulence. Pricey yes, but from what i have read on the other sites, way nice to fly.

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01-14-2009 05:31 PM  9 years agoPost 24
AaronJohnson

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I personally have a real problem with Align's substandard quality. I want to fly nice helis, not cheap under-engineered helis. To each his own and I personally will never buy Align. Ill stick with JR.

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01-14-2009 06:39 PM  9 years agoPost 25
mferraz

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Houston, TX

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TREX 700N
Great value, parts availbility, easy to work on, etc.

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01-14-2009 07:41 PM  9 years agoPost 26
airboss

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the parts count of the N9 is less because you dont have to replace anything out of the box, and if you use hyper hub and TT it eliminates another pile of screws and hardware.love my N9's

Urukay HPS3 KSE 700 HPS3

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01-14-2009 08:35 PM  9 years agoPost 27
Kinger

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Don't listen to what anyone else says. Go with what YOU like and what YOU can afford. (Both initially and if you should have an unplanned encounter with terra firma.) I think it's pretty safe to say that all of the machines listed can 3D better than most pilots so go with the one that makes you thilled to go fly and won't be a shelf queen.

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01-14-2009 08:42 PM  9 years agoPost 28
Ronald Thomas

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I just built a Trex 700 with the E-conversion for 12s.....Nuts power!

Sorry about the last pic,mI can't figure out how to get it off

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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01-15-2009 12:00 AM  9 years agoPost 29
jameswill4

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I think that I have pretty much ruled out the 700n. I am leaning towards a vibe and a rappy 90. Is there a big diffrence in the raptor 90 std and the raptor 90 3d?? Is it worth the extra 150.00 or is most of just bling other than like the paddles ( which I can get cheap). I am a little leary of putting 900.00 into the vibe when they have a new 90 coming out( I know some will say wait, but I know I could not wait that long I love the quality and finish on the vibe 50, and I am sure that the vibe 90 is just as nice but it sure does look pricey to put in the ground (I do not want something that I am afraid to run in.) I have not completly ruled out the synergy I just do not know that much about them. I am researching though. Thanks for all the input guys.
What about the os engines, I have always had os and have not heard many people comment on the 0s 91 ( I forget the letters) the black head pumped and non pumped.

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01-15-2009 12:03 AM  9 years agoPost 30
JAGNZ

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What about the os engines, I have always had os and have not heard many people comment on the 0s 91 ( I forget the letters) the black head pumped and non pumped.
The new OS-HZ (same as Align 91H) is the first really good 91 engine from OS IMHO. At least one that did not require mods to run right. It is a very powerful and smooth engine and is piss easy to tune. I am running my Align 91H with the Hatori 939 and it rocks!

BTW - if you have friends who will let you fly them, try them all out if you can (90 helis that is). They all fly well but some do some things better than others and only YOU can tell which one flies the way you like.


Jason Greenwood

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01-15-2009 12:10 AM  9 years agoPost 31
xxl

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My vote would be Synergy N9 dont worry about the bulid just call synergy their support is top notch

Or since you have the vibe 50 why not wait for the new vibe 90
When you get up to this level it is hard to compare it like chevy ford and dodge

the synergy tracks like it on rails and stays where you put it It is a pure adrenline rush to fly. trust me you wont be disapointed i was not

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01-15-2009 12:34 AM  9 years agoPost 32
Santiago P

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Well in an effort to make this a fair and balanced thread:

Nothing wrong with going with a Raptor 90. Throught the last 2 years I have seen a few friends change theirs 90s to an Raptor 90. Reason: price of operation and RELIABILITY. Something than a TRex700 CAN'T back up. Hundreds of posts from main gears stripping to ball links splitting, to balls wearing out, to, well you name it, it has caused trouble on these Align "wonders". On the other hand, the 700s are very light and flight great.
Something about a helicopter not staying together under normal use that just keeps me away from getting one myself.

Just to keep the rant going, the 700s are like those really hot looking girls you want to take out and have fun with, but you well know, more soonner than later, she's gonna turn on you and hurt you bad. LOL

Go out with the Vibe or the Raptor. They may not be the most popular girls at the moment, but they know how to keep a fun relationship longer. If you want to go uptown, the N9, the Aurora, or the Stratus will sure make you proud. Botton line, go with WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY.
My 2 1/2 cents.

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01-15-2009 03:17 AM  9 years agoPost 33
jameswill4

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Pineville KY

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BOY that synergy looks pretty pricey to run in too. ha ha TOugh decision. I really like the look of all of them. Does the 700 fly anything like the 600 or is it more locked feel. I think that I would just be nervous flying the 700 with issuses like links and main gears. These issues are not just minor to me as these will bring the heli to the ground.
Are the vibes pretty sturdy in a crash??

Any benefit of the pumped version of the os91hz, or will the non pumped version be ok and what exaust for it. I am going to go ahead and order the engine and pipe tommorrow.

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01-15-2009 03:53 AM  9 years agoPost 34
JAGNZ

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Does the 700 fly anything like the 600 or is it more locked feel.
They are very different machines. The 700 is a better heli, from design to flight characteristics. Mine is as locked in as any heli I have ever flown. You really need to try one for yourself, seriously. And the 700 quality is Aligns best yet - BY FAR.

The 700 problems are so overblown it's not even funny. I am mates with the NZ Align Dealer and out of all of the 700 Kits he has sold, NONE of the maingears have stripped. And I have seen the 700 get beaten on HARD by the NZ 3D Champion. The link issue has been resolved too - they come straight and true now, at least from what I hear from guys with new kits (my links were fine out of the box).

Think about the literally 1000's of 700 kits out there now - a relatively small few have had problems - as ALL helis do, especially when they are new. At least Align fixes their issues as they go....

The non-pumped engine is just fine, that's what I run. A lot less plumping and failure points with the non-pumped IMHO.

I am not trying to sway you, buy what you like but don't leave the 700 out of the mix just because of a few people who simply hate Align, no matter what they do or produce (most have never built or flown a 700). I had an R90 myself (see Gallery) so I know what the comparison is like.


Jason Greenwood

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01-15-2009 04:01 AM  9 years agoPost 35
jameswill4

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I do like the price point on it compared to the others and the cost of the spares. It is a very tough decision, I was just leary asI hated the way the 600n flew compared to my vibe.

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01-15-2009 04:06 AM  9 years agoPost 36
JAGNZ

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I was just leary asI hated the way the 600n flew compared to my vibe.
The 600N is quite sensitive to setup - particularly paddle choice but you're right, it's a balls out 3D machine and some people like a machine that tracks better than that. Good thing there are plenty of choices out there!


Jason Greenwood

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01-15-2009 07:43 AM  9 years agoPost 37
mchammer

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I have to agree compleatly with Jagnz.The 700 is the best 90 I have flown so far.Regarding the vibe I just built a 50 and wouldnt recomend it.I now understand why it is called the vibe.It is short for vibration.They are known for some serious vibrations that appear to come from the torque tube that nobody can conclusively fix.If you want to do a search you will have enough reading for 3 days on vibration problems that destroy varoius parts of the heli at will.
The synergy is a nice heli but if you ever crash you are going to pay dearly.They are like miniature aircraft, parts are mostly good quality but cost way too much.My raptor 90se is a good heli but very old technology and very heavy.It flys good but nothing like the trex 700.Parts arent too expensive but still about double that of the 700.The last crash on my raptor 90 cost over 500 dollars to rapair.In the end get whatever you want to.If you really want a raptor90 I have a nice one that has all of the 3d upgrades and bling that I have no use for anymore.

Peace Through Superior Firepower!!!

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01-15-2009 07:53 AM  9 years agoPost 38
AaronJohnson

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Regarding the vibe I just built a 50 and wouldnt recomend it.I now understand why it is called the vibe.It is short for vibration.They are known for some serious vibrations that appear to come from the torque tube that nobody can conclusively fix.If you want to do a search you will have enough reading for 3 days on vibration problems that destroy varoius parts of the heli at will.
Give me break. The vibration "problem" comes from two things. 1) the stock tails blades. AND 2) NOT BUILDING IT RIGHT!! Anybody that reads up on the vibe would certainly agree with what I just said, I know this because thats how I found out about it before I bought mine. You cant just slap a Vibe or any other heli like it together with no dial-ing and no attention to balancing and expect it to not vibrate.

SO.... Buy some $30 radix 92mm tail blades and learn how to build a heli properly, I promise you wont have any vibes on your vibe.

Plus, you are talking 50 sized and may I direct you to the title of this thread, yup thats right, IDEAS FOR A 90 SIZE!!!

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01-15-2009 01:41 PM  9 years agoPost 39
Santiago P

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Does the 700 fly anything like the 600 or is it more locked feel.
The 700 flies much more locked. The 600 is just all over the place when it come to tracking, at least the few I have flown.
I think that I would just be nervous flying the 700 with issuses like links and main gears. These issues are not just minor to me as these will bring the heli to the ground.
Just go the Align forum and read, the good the bad and the ugly. To me the ball link issue is the biggest, but some retailers have put together rocket city ball+ball links packages that replaces all the stock crappy ones. Ron's Heliproz has them for ~$45. I think this is a must. Again, spend a few hours reading, if this is what you want.
Are the vibes pretty sturdy in a crash??
They hold up as well as any heli.
Any benefit of the pumped version of the os91hz, or will the non pumped version be ok and what exaust for it.
It depends, if you are a hardcore 3D pilot, the pumped version will give you a more consistent run over the whole tank. The std version works very well too. Muffler choise depends on your flying, all out power, Hatori SB-20 or SB-18. The MP5-90 is a good one too if you can find one. Sport flying, any 90 size muffler will work.

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01-15-2009 07:21 PM  9 years agoPost 40
Hell-N-Sky

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May I suggesst...
http://www.runryder.com/t457647p1/?highlight=90

it's not a 90 but it can be

No one flies better than me..when I fly alone!

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