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04-04-2009 03:44 AM  9 years agoPost 81
windy62

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Buzz buzz buzz is right...

Same old song wasp, defending Century with "These other guys do it!"

The point was this statement,
I prefer the way Century is doing it - making sure the V1 is done right.
Which is OBVIOUSLY not ever the case...

I mean, If it's done right the first time, why the "Upgrades", New "Versions", or modifications needed to cure persistant problems?

There was a clutch, then a Heavy Duty Clutch, then a SUPER Heavy Duty Clutch, now an NX Super heavy duty Clutch, what next a Super Duper Heavier duty clutch??

Don't get me wrong, Improvements are a good thing, and you're right, everyone (well almost everyone) does it.

Making sure the V1 is done right? I doubt it.

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04-04-2009 07:58 AM  9 years agoPost 82
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""Same old song""

you bet

""You're kidding right""

if that was all you said I would have never replied, but all that other crap was nonsense !!

Jim
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04-04-2009 01:33 PM  9 years agoPost 83
jester4

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oh boo hoo!!

If Century is not releasing new products in the timeframe you demand, then I'm sure Align will definately fit the bill for you.

In the different hobbies that I've played around in, this is the only one where the customers act like spoiled kids with the gimmie gimmie tantrums..........

BTW, I don't buy into the 1 brand loyalty, but I WILL tell you if I like the product...

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04-04-2009 01:57 PM  9 years agoPost 84
windy62

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"Nonsense"? Did I lie, Did I post an untruth? Is it maybe even just a STREEETCH?

I don't believe so, and can pull up the proof...

With your Cheerleader blinders on, you just can't see the truth.

And since you can't seem to comprehend what is written, Everyone makes improvements, Including Century. That's a GOOD thing (some need improvements more than others.... )

But to say They (Century) do it right with V1 is totally incorrect...And History proves it.

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04-04-2009 07:42 PM  9 years agoPost 85
imnxtc

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Windy62

A couple of things to consider.

Some manufacturers, as their helis evolve, change the name of the heli as they make changes to it.

e.g. Sceado to Evo, Vigor to Vibe etc.

Others keep the same name and just add V1 or V2 or NX etc. as they keep with the demands of the market place.

e.g. The constant tail drive system used to be only an additional item all manufacturers made available for their bigger 60/90 size birds...they all came stock without it. If you were proficient enough in the auto to want to do aerobatic autos, then you would buy the Constant Tail Rotor (CTR) system they offered and add it to your 60/90. As the R/C heli community became more proficient in autos, more would order it. Consequently, the next version or generation of their 60/90 would have it as stock, along with some other such changes, that would be more in context with what the current market demanded....so you would get a V2 or as with others, basically the same heli with a whole new name - same difference...different marketing philosophy.

Also, a manufacturer may decide to make a bigger version of what he had before - e.g a gasser to turn 810 blades for AP work instead of 710mm bladed one for 3D. At the lower rotor speeds desired for AP work, this larger heli may be fine with the same auto clutch system as the smaller 3D version. But then, the manufacturer will have customers who want to fly 3D with the bigger one. Here he may find that the more heavy duty type of torrington unit is better. So instead of using two different types, he may find it more cost effective to use the same on on both - so of course he will choose the more heavy duty torrington unit on all subsequent versions of the smaller one also...smart economics...but that does not mean the original was not up to the task for the smaller 710mm unit.

So my referring to taking the time required to test the V1, is in reference designing and testing one for the current demands that will be put on todays 20CC sized heli...that is exactly what I mean they should do and are probably doing.

Who knows what the deamnads will be two years from now, when a 20cc engine may produce 30% more power?? Then they will probably have a V2 version and others may also have a V2 version but give it a whole new name.

So that is not the same as someone that launches a heli too quickly, only to find that, from day 1, it is not up to the task. So that it gets trashed by reviewers (on line and in magazine's)right off the start.

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04-04-2009 10:11 PM  9 years agoPost 86
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well said imnxtc,,

something else windy may not know, things he should be thanking Century for !!!,, Century set a lot of standards for the 30s/50s class that forced other brand to add better parts to their kits, Oh yes,,

1) back when all other brand 30s/50s came with an all plastic Swash Century's 30s/50s came with an all Metal Swash,,

2) when all other brand 30s/50s needed a upgraded Bearing Kit Century's 30s/50s came complete with all bearings

3) when all other brand 30s/50s came with Wood Blades or no Blades Century's 30s/50s came with some rather nice Glass/Carbon Blades,

4) and Century's were priced better..

Jim
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04-05-2009 12:04 AM  9 years agoPost 87
Blade_Master1

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^^^ Think you should leave the 30 out of that statement
which is only half correct but not completely untrue

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04-05-2009 05:12 AM  9 years agoPost 88
windy62

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Boy is it getting deep in here!!

But at the very least, it is good to see you are happy with your choice of company.

windy62

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04-05-2009 05:43 AM  9 years agoPost 89
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its deep for a reason. there are a lot of happy people when it comes to century.

Shawn
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04-05-2009 05:46 AM  9 years agoPost 90
imnxtc

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Windy62

And if you are happy with your QWW heli, good for you and please go back to their forum. I trust you will enjoy it as we enjoy ours.

Maybe I will go troll there a bit now

Wasp, only your #2 and #4 points apply to both, #1 and #3 apply only to the 50's.

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04-05-2009 05:48 AM  9 years agoPost 91
TaleGunner

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its deep for a reason. there are a lot of happy people when it comes to century.
Unless you bought a swift

CRASH! GLUE! REPEAT!
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04-05-2009 05:53 AM  9 years agoPost 92
imnxtc

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Talegunner

I have 3 Swifts - love them all. And there is a good number of them locally and everyone seems to love them.

In fact, one of our club mates just had his first two week ends with his Swift 16 on 5S & 6S. He was so impressed he put his T600E up for sale.

Go to the "Large Electric Heli" forum on RCG and see how many are there that like them. RCG is the bigger forum for electric helis.

When did you get a Swift???

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04-05-2009 05:58 AM  9 years agoPost 93
TaleGunner

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I had one 2 years ago and I liked it at first but no matter how many parts I replaced or upgraded I just couldn't get that head shake out on spool up. Drove me nuts, But it did fly well it had a 600+ and 6s lipo As a matter of fact I still have the motor in a trex 600 on 8s works great there.

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04-05-2009 06:13 AM  9 years agoPost 94
Blade_Master1

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I believe it was Oldfarts statement that leads a person to believe that it is Century who invented the Gasser heli
or that there are no other 50 gassers around already in production.

Whatever the case to say that Century is taking their time to get it Right the first time before production, This model was shown at the 2009 show. I'm sure they had started R&D long before that if not last season. Surely how hard it can be to gear up an engine to a rotor disc
(size/load) they already have the other components made.

Leads one to believe that they don't know wtf they are doing. How long have they been in business ?

BRB going to put on some popcorn

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04-05-2009 07:22 AM  9 years agoPost 95
oldfart

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Talegunner

All you would have needed was the stiffer version of their landing gear that they replaced for anyone who asked ... at no charge.

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04-05-2009 07:28 AM  9 years agoPost 96
oldfart

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I believe it was Oldfarts statement that leads a person to believe that it is Century who invented the Gasser heli
or that there are no other 50 gassers around already in production
BM1

You must be reading a heck of a lot more into my statement then I wrote. All I stated was that the R&D work done by Bill Meador did on the original Predator Gasser lead Zenoah to change the carb on all Zenoah engines sold to the R/C aircraft modeler by Horizon.

I don't think I said anywhere that Century was the only one developing a C20 sized gasser.

Hopefully, I will be able to bring my 4 season old Predator gasser to one of the Ottawa events this summer.

I know Furious Predator would enjoy taking it out for a spin or two.

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04-05-2009 12:54 PM  9 years agoPost 97
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I believe it was Oldfarts statement that leads a person to believe that it is Century who invented the Gasser heli
or that there are no other 50 gassers around already in production
Just saying is all I am

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04-05-2009 09:31 PM  9 years agoPost 98
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""Wasp, only your #2 and #4 points apply to both, #1 and #3 apply only to the 50's.""

imnxtc,, actually,, in 2002 Century's Hawk SEv2 (30) came with an all Metal Swash and Glass/Carbon Hurricane brand Blades,, I still have my Hawk SEv2 manual..

Jim
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04-14-2009 07:42 PM  9 years agoPost 99
willie evans

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HAHAHAHA.

This thread is too funny Century had a great post, then all the bickering and fighting by the cheerleeders just kill it....

windy62
The overhyped cheerleading has been going on forever! they can't let the Heli do the talking becouse it's not good enugh to win any competitions other than begginer ones.
And if they were smart thats were they should keep there marketing, as its a great begginer and learning platform, they sell alot of them becouse they are cheap toys to get into there is a reason they have to be priced so low...

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04-14-2009 10:35 PM  9 years agoPost 100
Dilbeck

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willie evans, maybe you can help me, You say cheap toys for beginners only. Could you compare anything from a stock Raven to something you fly that beats it in anything when it comes to strength or length of life for the same or less money? You make it sound like Century is the YUGO of model helicopters.

Clint

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