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01-15-2009 01:23 AM  9 years agoPost 21
myaces

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Ouch, I just re-read the original post and completely missed this part. Sorry kingair, I get your post now...
Just want one with a good governor mode
Seeing as that's what you are looking for I wouldn't suggest the CC. As I listed before I was never able to get it to work well. I've tried 3 times to get it working and the low/high mode were either way too low a headspeed or it would pulsate very badly. It might have been my motor and battery combination but I finally gave up.

You might need the Jazz, you'll have to give up on breaking the bank though! I'm going to try the Jazz with my 500, hopefully they pass the heli stimulus package.

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01-15-2009 04:05 AM  9 years agoPost 22
R38133

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2nd Jazz, 1st Jive

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01-19-2009 12:34 PM  9 years agoPost 23
02deuce

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[quote]2nd Jazz, 1st Jive
+1

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01-19-2009 12:37 PM  9 years agoPost 24
colsy

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Just want one with a good governor mode
Why??

Nowt wrong with curves. even easier on leccies!!!.

Col.

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01-20-2009 12:08 AM  9 years agoPost 25
hpilotrc

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Kontronik Jazz without a doubt...
Kontronik makes the best brushless speed controllers and maybe that is why they are not cheap?

I used a Castle way back in my T-Rex 450 and its governor mode was horrible! Even after multiple updates to the firmware. I got tired of it and sold it cheap and bought a Jazz 40-6-18 which has been flawless ever since. The governor mode for helis is the best and once you use their governor mode you will not go back. The headspeed is locked on and the governor keeps it there. You can program higher ATV settings for higher head speeds:

Example:

Normal Thr..... 0 45 45 45 45
Idle Up 1........ 55 55 55 55 55
3D.................. 70 70 70 70 70

Just bought a T-Rex 500 and will initally be using the Align ESC. I have no idea how good its governor mode works??? Anyone know???

Anyway if the Kontronik Jazz 55-10-32 wasn't so expensive ($280.00) I would already have it. Hopefully the Align will be sufficient for the time being!

Michael

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01-20-2009 12:19 AM  9 years agoPost 26
Blade_Master1

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I am using the Scorpian 55amp on my 450 very happy with it so far,
It doesn't have a governor mode or soft start but everything stays cool.
I don't have a need for a governor mode not sure why anyone woud bother on a electric.

Has any one else used cyclic to throttle mixes ?

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01-20-2009 01:02 AM  9 years agoPost 27
Turkana

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Kontronik Jazz, best ESC out there period and the gouvernor is also in its own class!

regards Pete

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01-20-2009 04:02 AM  9 years agoPost 28
MrNiceGuy

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Those Kontronic speed controlls may be the best speed control out there but I'd have to argue that it is not the "best speed control for the money." That's like saying a Ferrari is the best car for the money. I think what the OP was looking for is a speed control that has good performance and is still affordable, one that is a good value. Not the best speed controller at any price. I would say something like one of the Castle Phoenix speed controls would be more along the lines of best speed controller for the money. With the new software they seem to be very good speed controls. Are there better? Yes, but at twice the price. This all of course is just my opinion on the matter. BTW I wish I could afford Kontronics on my birds. Maybe when I win Power Ball

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01-20-2009 05:22 AM  9 years agoPost 29
Dr.Don

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I have several CC35 and CC60 esc's and they all work great under governor mode. Some people find the governor setup to be difficult, but I find it very straightforward using the new CC software and the CastleLink.

One reason some people find governors not to work well is that they try to govern at a headspeed too close to the maximum of their power setup's capability. For example, if you want to govern to a headspeed of 2900 on your Trex 450, your lipo/motor/pinion combination needs to be capable of spinning the head at least 3200 rpm when wide open. Then you "govern down" to your desired 2900. The extra 300rpm is called "headroom" and you need it for the governor to have somewhere to go when it needs to add power to handle the load.

The other thing some folks don't understand about CC governor mode is that in governor mode the "throttle curve" is no longer about throttle. It is simply a "set point" or number that tells the governor what headspeed setting to use. So it needs to be a flat line. The CC software allows you to choose 3 headspeeds and you tell it which one to use in each flight mode by the flatline throttle curve you choose.

Dr.Don

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01-20-2009 12:04 PM  9 years agoPost 30
mmc205

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nice summation 2atlo8
you taught me a lot about governers in a brief paragraph. I think i might actually try the governor mode on my castle 60 now!

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01-20-2009 12:10 PM  9 years agoPost 31
TomRex

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Normal Thr..... 0 45 45 45 45
Idle Up 1........ 55 55 55 55 55
3D.................. 70 70 70 70 70
You need to drop your pinion count

Ignorance is the absence of facts.Stupid is lacking the intellectual capacity to comprehend the fact

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01-20-2009 02:39 PM  9 years agoPost 32
Dr.Don

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One additional point on CC esc's. They have a flat price repair/replacement policy no matter whether it's crash damage, foolishness, or whatever. I've replaced two CC35's that were destroyed in crashes for about $30 each. The prices vary by model and are on their website.

Dr.Don

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01-20-2009 02:53 PM  9 years agoPost 33
Richardmid1

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So lets say you get your desired HS at 100% flat throttle curve with a certain pinion, with governor mode you would have to increase the pinion size to allow for 'head room' for the governor to TRY and keep the HS up. That to me just sounds like an inefficient system. If you have good battery packs and providing they aren't cold you will have a consistant HS using a high flat throttle curve (85-100%) using the correct pinion.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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01-20-2009 03:08 PM  9 years agoPost 34
Dr.Don

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If you get the headspeed you want at 100% throttle (no gov), overgearing the motor to get the headspeed up so you can then govern it back down is not usually a good idea. If you are happy running a flat throttle curve and no gov you should go ahead...lot's of people do. But if you run a data logger on it, you will find the headspeed to vary more under load and it will also sag from beginning of the flight to the end. This change may not be much for good, new packs, but it gets worse as the packs age. Again, governors are not a panacea, and lots of folks are very happy with flat curves and no gov.

Dr.Don

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01-20-2009 03:36 PM  9 years agoPost 35
Richardmid1

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Just trying to save people money buying an expensive ESC with a good governor when its not essencial. I cant believe someone said that a governor will make you a much better 3D flyer! That has to be a joke! lol.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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01-20-2009 11:17 PM  9 years agoPost 36
Blade_Master1

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IMO
Nitro's are the only heli to benefit from a governor.

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01-21-2009 12:21 AM  9 years agoPost 37
Ben-T-Spindle

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If no one cares about the governor then the CC HV series is definitely the best for your money. I have 5 of them (45’s and 85’s) and they all work perfectly.

... BTS

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